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Originally Posted by Damien

Ramsey came on because of the injury.

yes I know and if you read my post you'll see I had no argument with the like for like so early on. what I don't understand is why he's left on until the end. the guys burnt out, he'll be his old self again next season. he doesn't provide nothing worthwhile defensively, he slows down play. this isn't me taking a shot at Ramsey, I feel sorry for him. However I do blame Wenger, he calls the shots.

Originally Posted by Damien

He plays well but he is too young and inexperienced to control a game. I think the level of hype and expectation that was built around him is what is making Wenger hold him back, he is trying to protect him from the pressure and the hit on confidence when the fans get on his back when it turns out he isn't the messiah. The Ramsay situation is evidence of this.

Ox is a bright spark, we were all over Wigan. We needed the spark to open it up instead of banging head against wall.

The Ramsey situation isn't anything like that. Ramseys been overplayed which is why hes not as sharp now, hes burnt out.

Originally Posted by Damien

It isn't 'pathetic' . He made changes, they didn't work out. It's easier to suddenly declare who shouldn't have played after the game than before. He doesn't have the luxury of hindsight when picking his team before the game. This isn't too dissimilar from the team that beat City.

erm the naked eye last night saw that Ramsey slows down play. its not his fault he's been overplayed but to hang him out to dry is the managers fault. like I say we had Ox who could have come on for him in the second half but he left him on.

Originally Posted by Damien

Football is a contest. Sometimes you lose. It can't always be avoided. The performance was lacklustre, too many players lacking spark, and poor defending.

agreed but there was a possible game changer option which Wenger didn't make.

Originally Posted by Damien

This, along with QPR, may well cost us in the end. Let's hope we beat Chelsea.

Ramsey was hung out to dry in the free role getting the way against QPR as well. Yes lets hope even though Arteta is out and unless we see Yossi playing in midfield, thats if he can and hasn't got the can't play against parenting club clause.. we'll probably see Ramsey play on Saturday unless of course Wenger or someone points out to Wenger Ramseys burnt out and Ox will have to be thrown in.

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Theo was or is poor? He has massive potential and in some games he is simply untouchable but then he shows why he never went to the World cup with many of his performances.

He reminds me of Ben Arfa at the start, Massive potential and had a few games where he looked brilliant then more than just a few that were shockers. Luckily Ben Arfa has really shown his true colours lately but who knows, may be nothing but a fluke.

Theos needs our midfield to pull strings, divert attention for him to exploit. its a shame he can't do it alone, he's got the tools but their not sharp enough.

I remember Ben Arfa well while at L'OM. hes abit like Theos situation but the two big differences are ones a little trouble maker at times (Ben Arfa) and the other is too reserved, Theo tries to be the big man but thats not the problem. its balancing his ability thats the issue. furthermore Ben Arfas more content with the ball whereas Theo thinks the speed he posses alone will be enough when it isn't.

Originally Posted by weststandguy

I thought Wengers inability to give Wigan any credit for the win in the post match interview was shamefull.Even Alex Ferguson gave us that on Wednesday.
Well done Latics,four more points and we're there.

he's annoyed Wigan tried to time waste although that wasn't his problem. he's been his own enemy for a while now. to be honest with you mate the time wasting took some of the sting out but wasn't the serious problem from Arsenals view. from me, if it means anything, well done on taking the initiative.