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Old 24-03-2012, 12:15   #93
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Re: The NHS reform discussion thread

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Originally Posted by denphone View Post
Well there is a ballot box to show your disgust Alan and if you are unhappy with things use it.
Which is why I did not vote either Tory or Lib Dem last time round

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy View Post
Rubbish!

I couldn't care less who "owns" the NHS or parts thereof so long as the original ethos is maintained:

"To each according to need and free at the point of delivery"

(I paraphrase)



I'm completely fed up with the idiotic mantra from some here that public ownership is always good and private always bad. It's stupid, partisan and has no basis in reality. If it did the Soviets wouldn't be dropping it like a hot potato. Until they embraced change they were still queuing for bread!

The drive to make profit ensures that private will always be more efficient than public. Why anybody should think that a civil servant, often public school educted, should be able to run any kind of business or service better than somebody who has had to learn the hard way is completely beyond me. But it seems that some think that a publically owned utility would be some kind of charity augmenting the welfare state and not asking for bills to be paid.

But then I experienced the shambles of the seventies when publically owned companies and utilities were riddled with strikes and Spanish practices and where service was a dirty word. Heaven forbid that they'd actually give the customer (and wage payer) the time of day. I remember when it could take months to get a phone put in and then you could only have the offerings from that company. No sockets to be able to chose your own equipment.

It is not always the case that prviate is bad/efficient and public good/inefficient, the NHS should never be run like a business, if you don't agree then see this film before making up your mind

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicko

There are well run public sector organsations/companies and poorly run private sector organsations/companies

Remember the sell offs of the Gas/Electric/Water companies, all it benifited was the rich and we had to pay the price

Remember Enron and the banks, look how well they were run

Remember the fact the system benefits the rich at the expence of us

Lastly the 70s was manly caused by high fuel prices, bad management, underinvestment and the decline of the UKs power on the international stage
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