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Originally Posted by Gary L
Some forecourts will put their prices up just because of the fact that we're expecting it.
it's going to be another episode where it will be going up a penny every other day because they know we're expecting it.
then you have the garages that are 5p cheaper than the other one. which just tells you that a lot of them are just putting the prices up because they know we're talking about it, and they know we're expecting it.
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I think this happened last time too.
blockades of refineries I bet wont make mistakes next time when the shut them down. They never knew lincolnshire made alot of our petrol.
If they shut hemel hemstead too as its got direct pipe down there remember the fire had to shut the link pipe. Lindsey produces 223,000 barrells per day. Conoco 221,000 barrels per day.
Lindsey third largest refinery and conoco 4th. you can see where maximum damage could be done in blockade.
- Lindsey Oil Refinery, (Total), 223,000 bbl/d (35,500 m3/d)
- Milford Haven Refinery, (Murco), 140,000 bbl/d (22,000 m3/d)
- Pembroke Refinery, (Valero Energy), 220,000 bbl/d (35,000 m3/d)
- Stanlow Refinery, (Essar Energy), 272,000 bbl/d (43,200 m3/d)[8]
- Teesside Refinery, (Petroplus), 117,000 bbl/d (18,600 m3/d)
- Fawley Southampton Refinery, (ExxonMobil), 347,000 bbl/d (55,200 m3/d)
- Humber Refinery, (ConocoPhillips), 221,000 bbl/d (35,100 m3/d)
- Coryton Refinery, (Petroplus), 208,000 bbl/d (33,100 m3/d)
- Grangemouth Refinery, (Ineos), 205,000 bbl/d (32,600 m3/d)
Its was only after shutting the humber was fuel blockade took grip as combined both refineries its the biggest place where oil refined.
For some reason that blockade left the humber refineries alone for days attacked smaller refineries first like grangemouth, milford haven, pembroke, teeside. I dont think they will make that mistake again especially with that fire that there is link to hemel hemstead via big pipe to humber.
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
Whatever you use to propel a car it comes back to needing an energy source, Hydrogen has to be made and that uses energy, compressing air uses energy, charging electric cars uses energy. Where's it all going to come from? More wind farms?
If there was ever a switch away from petrol and diesel fuels the government could not but tax the alternatives instead to continue to raise the £45billion that road transport fuel taxes raise. There'll be no free lunches.
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thats true hydrogen does need to be made not saying it dont. Its at present best alternative to fossil fuels as pointed out electric by far its not possible due to electric issue.
The air car is the most interesting as it potential to be perpetual motion
You did watch the second vid they alread designed a compressed air generator which works on guess what compressed air. It dont need electric it works on AIR. Its compressing the air then running on that compressed air.
If the compressor makes EXCESS compressed air enough to drive the Air Car we then have car which dont need ANY fuel top up anywhere. It litarally go and go No wind to drive it no sun to drive it. You simply literally never need to stop.
Now that would be impressive the other advances would be sure is kinetics energy where simply bumps drive energy would be re-fill as source to be tapped fill batteries. We already seeing devices which you shake to provide energy to run it. Ad the technology to cars it would reduce times for recharging.
I dont think we ever fully rely on black stuff we will break the shackles how many years it will take fully viable alternative which dont rely on masses nuclear plants time will tell.