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Old 22-03-2012, 05:54   #279
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
Achieved what, in comparison to Boris? Here's a piece to start you off; it's highly partisan but that's ok, you can balance it by linking to a partisan source of your own.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/an...y-truth-audit/

Driverless trains, by the way, need safety attendants, not standby drivers. They are easier to train and easier to replace in the event of strike action.
Since that link is from a patisan newspaper, It does not count

Yes Ken Livingstone is friends with communists and islamists, yes he is rather flawed, but if you look at 2000-2008 he had done a lot like:

Invest into Tube and buses, which in turn have lead to more people use it

He helped bring the Olympics to East London

He has been defending London for a long time

He has helped cut crime and increase the number of police officers

Boris on the other hand has achived this:

A messed up transport and crime policy

More questions on the people that work for him

Doing poor sponsership deals

etc...

Neather Boris or Ken are perfect, but the idiot that is Boris is worse then Ken

If the Safety attendants go on stike it is not easy to replace them, they would need training to deal; with the job and nothing will train, only that the staff will be on another part of the train

Remember, some like have ATC, no diffrence when a Strike happened, it is much better to co-operate (which Ken largely did) than have a fight with the unions (which Boris had done)

Rathet than compplain about tube drivers, do what they do

---------- Post added at 06:51 ---------- Previous post was at 06:42 ----------

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan View Post
If they have to work more hours, then they should get overtime....end of story.



As a higher management Londoner, I would have thought that you would have been on the DLR Alan. Go and have a ride on one and you will see that there are no staff at all. After all you are a train enthusiast, as you were a member of a train forum until you got banned recently.



Alan it is you who defends the communist system, that has failed in most countries worldwide.



Now you are talking complete rubbish yet again. The tube drivers can hold their employers to ransom for the olympics. But how many of them will love their union so much when they lose their jobs due to automated trains??
If they work overtime, then they should be paid a decent rate


Also now that you have told about the fact about the DLR, crimminals all over London will be on the DLR doing what they do best

Also if TFL desides to sake all their drivers, then there will be the mother ofall strikes, because now their jobs are under threat

Also Rail UK Forums kicked me out on the basis on slurs and lies and my attemps to deal with that, also they violated freedom of seech as well

Speaking of lies, you now accuse me of being a communist, I have never stated that I liked communism and I am not keen on at

What I am is a radical reformer who wants a better form a capitalism and democracy

Lastly does you know this guy, you remind me of him



---------- Post added at 06:54 ---------- Previous post was at 06:51 ----------

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Originally Posted by martyh View Post
True but the big difference is that operator won't be on extortionate wages and is much easier to replace quickly should the threat of strikes loom
They might be if they are a member of RMT/ASLEF and you cannot operate the trains without them, if they did sack anyone over a stike/union related issue, TFL will have a big legal challage on their hands, otherwise the LU drive would have been saked a long time ago
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