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Originally Posted by martyh
How so ?
I think that this thread has proven that some people think that all disabled people should be allowed to sit on benefits and be supported by the state regardless of the severity of their disability and any suggestion that some disabled people are capable of working and supporting themselves is met with out and out hostility
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No martyh there whole host disibilities who could but it should be case by case with not just based on disibilty alone. The medication how that disabilty effects them should be considered.
Its not as black & white some with same disability and medication could have totally different reactions which cause bad adversities.
I also do think some errors down to people who filled the forms in its not the easiest thing to do to fill government forms. People can be either dishonest (deliberate exageration) or too honest (say you can do things but clearly cant you would not believe how many do that). The forms itself are very big factor to play in errors too. Some dont get profesional advice to help fill them in and dont mean the crook down the road talking proper charity help or council funded or even go to your GP. The new form I believe worse in itself tries to trap people with its wording think that caught out alot. Reading the disibilty forums one is can you stand without someone supporting you it makes no mention of aids. Now clearly if you need aid then its a NO but how many misunderstood the question. I think the government goto remember not all disabled will understand the way it sets questions. The government got duty be fair make sure form filling is simple and help booklet provided with loads examples which would ideal.
I think the more disabled help out there on form filling there believe been less errors.
There should also be another consideration for those in wrag the CLIMATE wrong at present so expecting instant job movement wont happen.
I maybe wrong but my understanding wrag assessment group. To assess those in wrag see what sort work and when if not yet move them to support.
What is clear over the months the assessment part of the changes is possible weak whether ATOS over stepping interpretation or guides weak it needs addressing. Errors we need to elliminate. Its not suprising the fear from disabled due to hostility they get in the streets. The errors whether due to misunderstanding errors from filling the form or ATOS these causing/caused no end collateral damage.
Martyh you surely can be understanding why the fear is there its nothing to do with weening of benefits its the fear of being wrongly assessed and the hostility towards them.