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Originally Posted by Stuart
Arthur, looking at the bright side, those 1.6 million council workers may have had a pay freeze, but they have jobs. A lot of people don't.
Not that I am saying everything is all right. It's not. You are right, a lot of big companies are increasing prices to customers, reducing staffing levels, offshoring what remaining staff they can, all while reporting record profit levels (Tescos for instance).
Someone (the Government, presumably) needs to bring these companies back into line. By making it harder to send jobs off shore, and taking action to bring pricing to reasonable levels.
In short, the Government needs to do a lot more to protect the voter. You know, the people who put them in power.. I do think our current Government is failing in that duty, but this isn't a party political thing. I think successive Governments since at least the 80s have failed to do this. I don't know about the 60s or before, but it seemed as though Governments in the 70s also failed to protect the voter in this way, but they favoured the Unions rather than business.
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Yes, but those 1.6 million are struggling, along with millions more out of work, all because of the fault of wealthy and major business!!!

It is about time governments cared more about unions (and people) than business and that is the fault of Labour, Lib Dem and Tory!
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Originally Posted by martyh
By whose definition are you not rich?
judging by the amount of hardware you have to watch tv you are considerably richer that I .Also the amount of time you spend on this forum i would suggest you don't have much of a job ,if one at all,or one that demands very few hours for a large wage .I look at that evidence and wonder how you have the gall to comment on wealthy people who do at least provide jobs even low paid jobs and quite probably provided you with the means to be able to afford
100 MB Broadband, XL Tv, Sky Sports and Movies HD, all other premium channels, 3 TIVO, 2 V HD
maybe someone could enlighten as to exactly what the cost of all that is because i bet it's quite a lot and i also bet you have 5 realy nice HD TV's to watch it all on and a top of the range pc/laptop/ipad/tablet with which to post your hypochritical drivel on ......oh and not to mention the 5 rooms in which to place all that hardware so it must be quite some house you live in .
You appear to be one of those people who in your ideal, single government ruled world who would be more equa than most others
Feel free to correct me if i am wrong
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I am fairly wealthy, but I’m not rich, if I was then it would be living in Surry and Central London, also I would have dozens of TV’s as well, along with a lot of other things!
I agree that the rich provide jobs, but not many and nearly all low paid, and yet they attack us even more by forcing us to pay the price for their mistakes and their failed system
I do spend a lot of time on CF, but I spend a lot of time at work!
I was lucky, I come from an era were social mobility was common and sadly it is not the case!
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Originally Posted by Sirius
Student at university i think you will find, Its all in his twitter feed, There's lots of info on him if your willing to drill down through the rubbish and requests to kill people on there.
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What you do not get is that it has been a very long time since I went to uni!

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Originally Posted by martyh
Oooohh ,so maybe it is wealthy parents funding him .I find it strange that someone who has not had to fend for himself in the real world by finding a job and living off that wage feels that he is qualified to tell all of us how broken the system is and how to fix it
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I have come from an era when people could climb up the social ladders, when that is no longer possible, the system is not working and it failing!!!

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Originally Posted by Osem
Charlie Gilmour ring any bells? There are plenty of others like him who like to talk the talk whilst enjoying the privileges derived from the wealth they say they despise but, judging by our resident fantasist's spelling, if any money was spent on public school it was wasted....  You wait and see, if/when he grows up he'll be just as capitalist as all the others are.... 
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I am closer to his dads age, my parents were not wealthy (but not poor) and the only times I have been to a public school has been as a tourist!
Unlike out PM!
I am a capitalist, but someone who believes in a better form of it!
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
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What Ken has done is not good!
But Boris is still worse!
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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I am not keen on David Milliband, we do not need another Tony Blair!
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Originally Posted by LexDiamond
This current mess isn't the fault of bankers alone. People actually borrowed money couldn't afford to repay and all for yhings they probably didn't need.
If the general population could repay its debts we in all honesty would all be be nowhere near as bad as this.
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Thats beacuse their wages did not rise!
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
What I want to hear is the left wingers here who have been ranting on about tax avoidance being as bad as tax evasion acknowledging that perhaps it isn't.....since their own 'leaders' are doing it.......and perhaps acknowledging the monumental hypocrisy of those same left wing leaders.
Too much to ask?.......probably 
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Thoses "Leaders" have sold out the the rich and powerful, just ask Blair, but business and the wealthy do it even more than our so called leaders!!!