I think some should be allowed over it if they a disabled person who needs round the clock healthcare. Considering now they may have to find private healthcare staff due to council cuts. Will have to pay them wage with there own money.
Now there is another question what about those who disabled and work these people actually do the right thing before we had the split in disabled from wrag/support. Seems wrag will get more kicked in the teeth. Then the catcalls will be next they aint disabled they work look.
Maybe we should have absolute ceiling 26,000 for MP's afterall they are drain on taxpayers.
Surely this is tackling issues arsed around backwards is the solutions. Especially Marytyn if your defense of the policy is due to wage related. Would we not be better trying to improve standards. Now another eye on this take money out of the system will mean less spending in the economy. Not saying we do nothing.
Again it should be case by case true reforms welfare such as less forms to fill in less beaucracy making sure people get what they need. Not way to save money they saving money on those not claimed millions. More help where its needed not less. Changes to JSA payment so partime work is viable to everyone as they dont lose benefits entitlement. Less need for people to keep needing take payslips to get there entitlements. Taxman knows earnings so why not link it to benefits. Would stop over paying under paying tax credits.
We need to set building blocks before sledgehammer approach.
Surely tackling housing prices and land costs to bring them back to sensibility. making britain cheaper to live but what we seeing some unbelievable crazy policies to hodge bodge the country. Getting wages better making business pay there taxex and there masters is surely the answer.
Adjusting tax for lower brackets put more money in the pockets austerity was hog wash to hit the poor low paid get the masters even richer. Which is not issue if they actually used there money create the jobs. They not happy they now want 50% tax bracket abolished on pretence it killing investment on jobs.
Paying MP's LESS and cabinets they dont deserve there wage would save us bit. There many things we could do alot of this bill is rubbish. Should get 60k max its more enough with expenses to do the post. Better still maybe we should sack the lot for workfare.
There some dangerous presidency in this bill for one the DLA being dropped for Personal Independence Payment. there estimates some will lose there entitlement despite passing ATOS its about saving money not helping disabled get right help. Its about ripping up DLA contract some of which who passed there ATOS assesments time after time but will lose the award for life binding contract. These will be ones who been deemed wont get better but according to tories nobody sick for life according to bigoted MP's. Cameron should know as anyone there is people who will suffer for life. Cant he leave the poor beggers alone dont they suffer enough.
Another horrendous madcap idea.
One is telling housing associations to move rent in line of private landlord why not force landlords to prices more realistic or capping. Ours going up 6% this not being highlighted. Its madness.
Maybe tories should think better solutions. They should ban private renting of current mortage property. Dont own 100% without mortage/finance cant rent it. Only way would be part ownership with ocupied rent holder. Giving those security off not being evicted. Independent investigation of properties of private renting to see if its fit if not its reposed off them. Independant review of evictions saw how some **** operate on tv these need banning.
Agree what taf says what will happen as things go up will threshold be rectified. Where will families or people go yep on the streets as there no housing around to cover there poxy room tax. Surely there should be alternatives before it should not be everyone. If no alternative no tax no forcing them out. It should be also need by need spare rooms should be allowed if justified. Small home for box room ie it should be on MASTER room size bedrooms not box bedrooms.
Again build the bloomin houses first. Then what about those who followed words of certain MP called norman tebbitt on your Bike follow the jobs. Only to find years later redundancy deflated JOB MARKET. Do the stupid tories realise the unemployed market.
So they likely move in droves to cheaper areas of the north as example guess what no JOBS. They aint any for those who stayed so persacution with welfare for being privaledged to be unemployed. Shoved around the country like they piece dog mess on some suited arogant misinformed snob.
Anybody thinks this will effect big families with zillion kids are lightyears from it.
Sadly many disabled will be effected taf those who have carers who need 24 hours support.
I think this forum sums it up and poster.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1635815
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I genuinely pity anyone who gets their kicks from inflicting more suffering on the chronically ill and disabled. I am really glad that I cannot even begin to understand such a mentality.
Speaking as someone who will be unaffected by the welfare cuts, it is a very sad day for compassion, decency and the truth. However, anyone who thinks that this is all done and dusted is being very premature.
The fact that welfare cuts have been pushed through on a stream of lies and misrepresentations shows that the government have no moral justification, and indeed no fiscal justification, for their cuts.
The sad truth is that hundreds of thousands of genuine claimants will suffer. The likelihood is also that the taxpayer will suffer as many chronically ill/disabled people are forced to give up work (before being ordered to work for no salary on the work programme) and others are forced out of their homes and into highly expensive residential care and hospital.
It is sad that some ill-informed people think the WRB is about the benefit cap, when that is only a very small part. Today, the Joint Committee on Human Rights has published its report "Implementation of the Right of Disabled People to Independent Living" in the context of the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (UNCRPD) which was ratified by the UK in 2009.
It has confirmed what informed people have been saying for a long time:
- reforms to benefits and services risk leaving disabled people without the support they need to live independently
- restrictions in local authority eligibility criteria for social care support, the replacement of the Disability Living Allowance with Personal Independence Payment, the closure of the Independent Living Fund and changes to housing benefit risk interacting in a particularly harmful way for disabled people
- some people fear that the cumulative impact of these changes will force them out of their homes and local communities and into residential care
It also finds that:
- the Government had not conducted an assessment of the cumulative impact of current reforms on disabled people. The Report urges them do so, and to report on the extent to which these reforms are enabling them and local authorities to comply with their obligations under the UNCRPD
- the UNCRPD did not appear to have played a significant role in the development of policy and legislation, as is required by the Convention. The Committee therefore argues that the Government should make a commitment to Parliament that they will give due consideration to the articles of the Convention when making legislation
Further, the Committee deprecates changes to the duties of public authorities in England under the Equality Act 2010, which no longer require the production of equality impact assessments of changes in policy, nor the involvement of disabled people in developing policies which will affect them.
The Committee finds variations in the manner in which the devolved administrations have implemented the Convention, and uncertainty as to the role the UK Government should play in ensuring implementation.
The Committee also considers a range of other issues relating to independent living. It recommends that the Government should take further action to ensure that assessments for care needs are portable across the country in order to ensure disabled people’s right to choose their place of residence.
It also expresses concern over a growing incidence of hate crime against disabled people and urges the Government take action to foster respect for the rights and dignity of disabled people.
While reforms and improvements could always be made, the government has rushed through this Act with little consideration as to how it will impact on genuine people, the consequences for the taxpayer, and it has consistently lied and misepresented the facts in order to gain public support. No decent person would support such behaviour.
As has been said on numerous occasions, our welfare spending has never been hugely generous. Over the last few years we have been marginally above the OECD average, having been marginally below the average in the previous few years. Our welfare spending in the noughties was the lowest, compared to GDP, in any decade since the 1950's. These are facts that the prejudiced coalition and their equally prejudiced disciples conveniently forget and sadly Labour are too ill-informed and spineless to counter the lies from the coalition and their friends in the gutter press.
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