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Old 29-02-2012, 20:14   #186
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Re: Sainsbury's pull out of 'Work for your benefits scheme'

good threats removed there many reason why it need to be there from being treat badly, bullying and other reasons like they was using you as no job available.

What you think is valid reason for pulling not necessary jobcentre's. YTS scheme they had person visit you so you tell them they would do spot checks without warning.

I still not happy the scheme allows business to circumvent paying a training fee or even paying those willing token pay ontop of JSA.

The programme clearly need more work but these should been done before they stupidly released it. Guarantee interview should be relplaced guarantee JOB. If you shown your good enough there is job why the heck should it be lottery. No oversubscibing position with placements 1 for 1 system. You could get situation 5 placements all terrific workers only 1 space is it fair 4 lose out nope. Better regulation strict rules should make sure companies dont us this as abuse.

These should only take placements if job at end is there no job no placement. Strict guides to competance too. If person upto the standard it should not be just employer decision it should be collective colleagues afterall they will be working with them. So they dont trudge they was not good enough when clearly they was and got on with other staff members.

Martyn no quite simply your wrong. Would you work for nothing forced labour for JSA have no way out if issues arise. Entrapped with literagation company abusing you no job at the end if you work hard. Safety net should be implace.

I actually think the government stick approach is shocking why not put a carrot infront.

At present rules state JSA claiment can only earn think its paltry £15 surely giving them little money i there pocket for voluntaring should be done. If they doing work for nothing then surely they deserve reconision for so by bit EXTRA in there pockets.

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Originally Posted by martyh View Post
The whole point of this program was for it to be aimed at 18-24yr olds many of wome come from families who have never had any workers in it .These type of children need to learn that work isn't a dirty word .They need the basic experience of getting up and facing the responsibility of going to work on a daily basis along with the consequencies of not going .If people don't go to work they get docked pay ,if people don't attend on this scheme they should get docked jsa .Learning the consequencies of not going to work is just as important as learning the job itself .All that will happen now is that more 18-24yr olds will be placed on compulsory work schemes and non attendance will definately mean they face sanctions
Sorry but this totally misses the point.

I will tell you this those who you refer to would go to these schemes if they got £30 extra in there pocket without being effecting there claim. That would be nothing to companies like tesco.

Yes they need help to get on the rung of work. Like I have always said treat people as trash they act like trash. Show respect by offering reward you will see change atitude.
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