[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

I've not used the word invincible, nor have a said that a victory is guaranteed.. What I have said is that the technology is the biggest advantage that anyone could have within the armed forces. It'll enhance an armies ability to defend, attack and is also the biggest deterrent that we have.

Now that you've attempted to put words in my mouth and failed whilst trying to defend your viewpoint I wonder if you'll finally realise that in a war no-one is right, these are purely opinions and you can't just include the size of the army or the closeness of the force in this discussion without considering the whole picture..

Argentine would be stupid to try to send in an attack, there's no way they could sneak in like last time and to get a major invasion force would be catastrophic for them when they attempt to deploy to the islands. The subs alone would have a field day never mind the type 45 and the typhoons.. It's not a case of when the 2nd conflict starts, it's more a case of are the argies willing to lose a lot more than they did in 1982 and still probably end up with no islands. I can also see attacks directly on military infrastructure on the mainland by TLAMs and the argies know that and also know that they can't defend against that. Argies have a lot to lose a lot more than us.

I'll say one thing Tim, you sure do make me laugh

It's what you haven't said that speaks loudest.

You are now saying

nor have a said that a victory is guaranteed

So why are you arguing against me? What I have been saying all along is that we could do with the aircraft carriers back, and we should boost our defences. Now that is just common sense in anyones book, if victory isn't guaranteed with the current status. Because a deterrent is only 100% effective if it puts the enemy in the mind that there is no way they could win.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Another old rerporter's epithet is never let the facts get in the way of a good story. It's not one I lived by personally, but wasn't I saying only a moment ago how you liked to claim the experience of friends and family as your own.

I think if you're going to wade into a discussion as detailed and long-lasting as this particular thread, you owe it to yourself to rely on a little more than childhood memories. Your mis-remembering of the basic fact of the length of the war would have been immediately corrected had you gone no further than the Wikipedia entry for the 1982 conflict.

For you to make grand statements about how ex-service personnel in this thread are insulting the memories of soldiers who died is utterly pitiful given that you are prepared to advance arguments about the detail of the current situation without even the basic courtesy of trying to get your facts straight.

You don't have any idea about where I get my information from, except when I quote sources.