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mertle · 24-02-2012, 20:19

This is interesting piece about it

http://sturdyblog.wordpress.com/2012...-bagging-area/

Personally I think government running scared there fabled idea hogwash.

If they want truly system where it creates opening then why not make it totally voluntary system where people can drop out whenever. I dont buy the notion of lazy either or snobery. Most people want to work get wage yes maybe few got in rut. However give them carrot they would bite it. That means reward either guaranted job not an interview rubbish a JOB. If not then monetary incentive ie JSA+money from workplacement.

Why cant companies PAY for its workforce its training staff it crime now society wants a paypacket for its services. However little they pay at least they pay something. Surely even if they Just GET £10-£15 its better sweet FA.

It would take away stigma of cheap labour to degree. This actually worse than YTS Scheme at least poor saps got expenses and £10 quid in its pocket. Believe me when on £25 it was like nice bonus.

I am actually shocked at the snobery that persists with those who think training should come free to company who has 100bn turnover.

Someone made a point on forum surely forced labour from jobcentre violates there contract of looking for work. Anybody been there will tell you you have to sign to say you will look for work via action plan. Anybody will tell you looking for work is quite a task done properly.

I can imagine someone doing backbreaking work stacking shelves 7 nights shifts hardly going to be in great shape for interview. Believe you me 24 cans of beans aint light work. What about health & safety as these technically not employers what rights do they have.

Therefore its crazy counter productive. The only winners are Tesco's etc who get cheap labour. Fact night work pays more than dayshift work we see real reason for this scheme. Ok few will be given jobs they where in the 1980's YTS its to pacify there not cheating the system. There was many YTS who worked hard got glowing refrences but dumped as there was not any oportunities same with this scheme.

No doubt the pathetic awards will be given to say you can do this job that but useless junk not worth there paper as they become not reconised within the industry. Once the markets pick up bet those who done this will be forgoten and there efforts ignored.

Yes there does need to be system but much better way creating work and oportunities and skilled labour.

24-02-2012, 20:19	#90
mertle Inactive Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,134	Re: Sainsbury's pull out of 'Work for your benefits scheme' This is interesting piece about it http://sturdyblog.wordpress.com/2012...-bagging-area/ Personally I think government running scared there fabled idea hogwash. If they want truly system where it creates opening then why not make it totally voluntary system where people can drop out whenever. I dont buy the notion of lazy either or snobery. Most people want to work get wage yes maybe few got in rut. However give them carrot they would bite it. That means reward either guaranted job not an interview rubbish a JOB. If not then monetary incentive ie JSA+money from workplacement. Why cant companies PAY for its workforce its training staff it crime now society wants a paypacket for its services. However little they pay at least they pay something. Surely even if they Just GET £10-£15 its better sweet FA. It would take away stigma of cheap labour to degree. This actually worse than YTS Scheme at least poor saps got expenses and £10 quid in its pocket. Believe me when on £25 it was like nice bonus. I am actually shocked at the snobery that persists with those who think training should come free to company who has 100bn turnover. Someone made a point on forum surely forced labour from jobcentre violates there contract of looking for work. Anybody been there will tell you you have to sign to say you will look for work via action plan. Anybody will tell you looking for work is quite a task done properly. I can imagine someone doing backbreaking work stacking shelves 7 nights shifts hardly going to be in great shape for interview. Believe you me 24 cans of beans aint light work. What about health & safety as these technically not employers what rights do they have. Therefore its crazy counter productive. The only winners are Tesco's etc who get cheap labour. Fact night work pays more than dayshift work we see real reason for this scheme. Ok few will be given jobs they where in the 1980's YTS its to pacify there not cheating the system. There was many YTS who worked hard got glowing refrences but dumped as there was not any oportunities same with this scheme. No doubt the pathetic awards will be given to say you can do this job that but useless junk not worth there paper as they become not reconised within the industry. Once the markets pick up bet those who done this will be forgoten and there efforts ignored. Yes there does need to be system but much better way creating work and oportunities and skilled labour.