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Originally Posted by martyh
Again you refuse to see the reality of the stuation .The figures you quote are based on known fraud .The government have no idea how many people are defrauding the system because they haven't been caught yet At best the figures are a educated guess based on past known fraud and anti fraud initiatives.You may want to have a look at these figures from the DWP.And again you refuse to accept that people who can work ,albeit with restrictions,are claiming full disability benefits intended for people who genuinely cannot work ,that may be intentional or it may not ,it is a overly complicated system with far too many different benefits but it is still misuse .All these major faults in the system are trying to be addressed in the reforms, as they should be
and i have not said that life is equally as hard for everyone , i said ,
"it's a struggle even for able bodied people" so don't try to twist my words |
You are impossible.
First of all the saying "its not affordable" is wrong, the government chooses where it spends its cash, the cuts are not because its unaffordable but rather the current government doesnt want the money spent in that way. Since they have got elected numerous expenditures of cash have been carried out including.
writing off of over 20billion worth of tax to large companies.
commiting to a high speed rail link.
offering cash for extra waste collections to councils.
freezing international aid and nhs expenditure, the international aid as it turns out is a complete joke with india mocking us saying they didnt want it.
giving tax cuts out to certian taxpayers.
giving tax cuts to businesses.
also if the government have no idea who is frauding the system (as you say) then how do YOU know? Of course they have an idea, it may not be 100% accurate but they will have an idea. The DWP figures will be the most credible as after all it is their job. The fraud figures may seem higher of course when people start thinking they doctors and can diagnose someone in the street if they a fraud or not and the government starts moving the goalposts on claims so it looks like many have been illegally claiming.
In addition to show how out of touch you are disability living allowance is not an unemployment benefit, its perfectly legal to work full time whilst claiming it.
So you someone who has no experience of the system has decided its too complicated and has excessive fraud. I think the truth is you just want your tax bill to drop.
What are you doing posting me figures that backup what I just said?
0.3% IB fraud
0.5% DLA fraud.
Thats about as close to zero as you can get and is very tolerable.
Whats funny is this 26k benefit cap will affect hardly anyone on benefits, the propoganda campaign by the bbc, the daily mail, the sun and the government led to that cap which has led to people thinking that a typical benefit claimant gets over 26k worth of benefits. Thats one thing however its a very different thing when disabled people are been mocked and threatened in the street.