[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Kushan

As I said, we're debating that not everyone strictly sees it as "free" as the money for the upgrade came from monthy fees - the difference is that Virgin has decided to upgrade everyone rather than pocket it. I'm simply saying that it's not strictly absolutely free, but it is worth praising Virgin for doing it.



That is correct and as I said before, by Virgin's own rules they're complimentary to your purchases. The point I'm making isn't that something is or isn't free, it's that not everyone uses the same definition of "free". Due to that earlier comment of "Free by anyone's definition".

Here's a good example of what I'm talking about - tesco does this thing all the time and it really annoys me - they'll have an offer on like a BOGOF, except they'll jack up the price of the item so you end up paying about the same as you would for two of them the week before. Is the second item free? Well, sure, it's free all right but at the same time it's not really free. Now that's not meant to be in any way analogous as to what Virgin is doing, merely showing that "free" isn't always "free".

No it is free in this sense. Your price isn't going up. So it's extra for nothing. The money for the upgrades doesn't come from your monthly payment. That just pays for what you are already getting.