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Originally Posted by caph
Stuart, are you sure about this? I know that section 27 sub-section 6 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 allows "making a single accessible copy for personal use". Are you saying there has been amendment to this particular clause? I can't seem to find one but I'm no expert on law, I just know the basics, but I would appreciate knowing the latest score regarding all this.
Or are you talking about grabbing the HD content and distributing it? In which case, yes it's definitely illegal. In my case I want to grab the hi-def MOTD highlights of United beating Man U, and I only want to keep it for myself, so there will be no infringement in this respect because I will delete the copy on my Tivo to free up space once I've copied it to my NAS box. I doubt it is something that will ever be released on a Blu-Ray so other than resorting to illegally downloading a torrent, I believe the HDFury/HD PVR combination is currently my only legal (but very expensive) option.
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the copyright law is exploited by users wanting to have legal copy and the companies who it is meant to protect exploiting to make more money
the entire law needs to be rewritten for the modern age it is far out of date, but ever time it might happen it always favouring the the holder to make more money there will be a cahne sometiem this year that will make it legal to copy form pvr or even a blu-ray/dvd a copy for your use on your own devices with no drm but the holder are trying to block it because people can exploit it
what needs to be done is for the holder to modernise and make everything avaialble online as digital download/dvd/bluray etc at a reasonable subscription price that has unlimited access but also optiosn for limited numebr per month as i say the price has to be reasonable
seocnd the law they passed to prosecuted illegal downloader or fielsharer need to be changed to protect user and not use ip as ameans, there other better ways to identify the user but nothing is 100% relible apart from checking the user hard disks, once the above system is in place they then target uploader and downloaders because then everyth8ng will be available legally for download ata good price and anyone still doign it illegaly are trying to defruad the holder just now 60% of illegal downloads i woudl say aint available in dvd/bluray form so it is part the reason people do it, but people also do it to see if they will liek it before they buy it i say there is about 10% of the user downloading who dnt ever want to pay and those are the ones that need to be prosected
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
"accessible" is the key word here (see section 31A). It is in relation to making copies for the visually impaired. For example, if you bought a book but the print was too small for you to read, you would be permitted to make a copy with larger print if a large-print version wasn't commercially available.
I'm not going to enquire into your personal circumstances, but I can't think of any way that having a DVD copy would let you access a recording that you couldn't access on the TiVo.
In general, the only lawful copies you can make in a domestic environment are for time-shifting purposes. Your TiVo already meets that requirement.
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acutally the law is black in that area about timeshifting, techically pvrs/dvd recorder etc are illegal but because it is seen they cant be copied then they dnt try to get them banne die the copyright holders but i agree with what your saying