[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Some jobs are, sadly, dead end. Hate to break it to you but being a cleaner, serving behind the counter at a fast food outlet and several other jobs are not known for their prospects, doesn't mean they don't have to be done.

When you join the rest of us here:



We'll talk some more on this.

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I don't rate our chances of forcing work and labour standards onto 2 countries with a combined population of 2.5bln.

Not that it's anything against the UK, I don't rate anyone's chances of forcing said standards onto them, be it the USA, the EU, or whomever else.

Not that it matters of course, while we continue to buy their cheaper goods nothing will change, and we're not going to stop doing that any time soon as those goods being so relatively cheap is the only reason many can afford them.

Well, My feet are are on earth while yours (and others who share the same view) are on a Thacherite dreamland that did not turn out to be true, the dead end jobs you are talking about are about the best most can expect in life, WHY!! cant we a a right to improve our lives by joining trade unions!

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Those continual strikes frittered away customer support and the cash needed to invest in new models and technology: At one time they had a class leading front wheel drive system and liquid suspension when Ford were still using donkey cart springs and live axles.

Without funds they had to scrimp and make do: Even when the Metro came out as one of the models to try and save the company it had to make do with many parts from the original Mini as Austin/Morris, as it was called at that time, couldn't afford the £500 million needed to develop new engines and gearboxes.

No single strike killed that industry but the continual drip drip of disputes did, as it also did for many other of the heavy industies that we were once pre-eminent in.

Those that are too ready to strike on the slightest pretext should take a look at the history books and think again. There are very few jobs where sooner or later a machine/computer can't do the work more reliably, repeatably and for less money than a man/woman.

So why don;'t we just let computer do everything then