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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
So, if you didn't think that your employer "appropriately valued" you you would simply "go elsewhere" by withdrawing your goodwill and leaving their employ rather than try to negotiate your worth?
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I do not see anything in my post indicating that this would be a first course of action, I described it as a business arrangement which of course runs both ways and involves appropriate negotiation.
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
Ironically that makes you considerably more militant than those union members whose you are trying to berate in this thread.
Clearly your stated position somewhat undermines your argument vis a vis the supposed selfish actions / industrial action / negotiations by tube drivers in relation to their job security / pay / perceived worth.
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Not really. I don't threaten to leave nor withdraw my labour unless I get what I want. I don't hold anyone to ransom, I simply do what I do with every other business arrangement, keep it to my satisfaction or find an alternative one.
I don't work for the sake of 'goodwill' I work for pounds sterling.
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
Take a leaf from Iggy's book and act on a self centred basis by withdrawing your labour with no consideration for anyone else or, alternatively, join a union and negotiate - and if needs be strike - to get what you think you're worth.
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You seem to suggest I have some obligation to stay with an employer? I'm amused that you offer joining a union and if needs be striking as an alternative to acting on a self centred basis. One is a single person's actions, that person has a notice period and can be replaced with someone who is potentially more productive and a better fit as they'll be happier, yes it's inconvenient. The other is an entire group who can, at a vote, withdraw their labour whenever it causes maximum harm to the employer on relatively little notice and cannot be replaced. Both are, of course, self-centred, however I would question their relative impact on the employer and who has 'no consideration for anyone else'.
I would hardly equate threatening to withdraw labour if not receiving what is demanded with changing jobs for a better deal. Surely that's just being a participant in the labour market? What's so wrong or militant about that?
