[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

It's a serious issue, when people get killed.

I want to ban the car altogether because it kills at all speeds. are you with me?

Now you are twisting my words. But if you want to go down that route, who else is actually trained to drive at high speeds on public roads safely?

Ok, who taught the first person that started the teaching of the rest?

was it just a common sense approach put into action?
if that 'policeman' was able to teach others then there has to be others that are capable of fitting the grade without having to get the training.

I was watching someone play a game on the Xbox the other day. Halo3 I think it was. he had to go through training.
"look up.. good" "look down..excellent. I think you're ready"

As I keep saying, there is no certificate.

We'll just call it a piece of paper then for arguments sake.

No it doesn't mean you are useless if you aren't qualified at all. My point was that people shouldn't have an inflated belief of their skills, unless they have been tested.

Surely you mean trained.

Now you are being silly about the lights.

Ok, so it doesn't look silly. both sides can have the blue ones.

We aren't talking about those who drive at 80mph. That isn't as much of a speed differential.

Of course it is. it's a big difference.
just the saame as it would be a big difference if it was 40 compared to 30.

I can't see the limit being raised to 100mph, but if it was then there wouldn't be a big speed differential making those driving at those speeds as dangerous.

Compared to what, 80?
so when does speed become dangerous then. you've lost me.

And please don't say anything about certificates, blue flashing lights, sirens or training.