[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Osem

Ah but you see these drivers are perfect and don't need any of that guff. Even at 100mph plus they can see black ice, diesel spills, sharp objects on the road and the like. Their senses are honed to expect the unexpected and can even predict freak events like blowouts secure in the knowledge that their superior driving skills will always see them out of trouble. Frankly I'm surprised that drivers as good as these guys must be ever get involved in serious accidents at all but I expect it's all the fault of everyone else on the roads....

And some are too thick skinned to realise that you mean them...lol

---------- Post added at 17:58 ---------- Previous post was at 17:48 ----------

Originally Posted by Gary L

I think some people are taking this far too seriously.

It's a serious issue, when people get killed.

Originally Posted by Gary L

some think that anyone in uniform in an official government vehicle are superior drivers, and all others are useless too.

Now you are twisting my words. But if you want to go down that route, who else is actually trained to drive at high speeds on public roads safely?

I used to do motor racing, but just being skilled on the race track doesn't prepare you for obsticals, other drivers, oil spills, traffic coming at you head on, junctions, or drivers who panic.

Originally Posted by Gary L

some think that having this certificate makes you a superior driver, and not having one means you're useless.

As I keep saying, there is no certificate.

No it doesn't mean you are useless if you aren't qualified at all. My point was that people shouldn't have an inflated belief of their skills, unless they have been tested.

Originally Posted by Gary L

some think that we should have a TV show where the useless and the superior compete. but only the superior are allowed blue lights. the useless have to have purple.

Now you are being silly about the lights.

There have been many programs testing peoples driving skills. And guess what, it's usually the cocky, over confident ones who are the worst drivers.

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Ok, but in a few years the government may raise the speed limit to 100mph on the motorway anyway. and those who say they sometimes drive at 100mph anyway can no longer be called irresponsible, careless or dangerous.

we have got to teach ourselves at the moment about people who drive at 80mph that they are no longer seen as a social misfit.

our government really knows how to pull our strings, don't they.

We aren't talking about those who drive at 80mph. That isn't as much of a speed differential.

I can't see the limit being raised to 100mph, but if it was then there wouldn't be a big speed differential making those driving at those speeds as dangerous.

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Originally Posted by Osem

Agree in part but with increased speed comes increased momentum, increased stopping distances and a proportional lowering of reaction time. Even leaving possible driver error aside, a blowout at 30mph or 70mph isn't likely to be as dangerous (to both the occupants of the vehicle and other road users in the vicinity) as one at 100mph.

So in other words, although speed doesn't kill, it is a huge factor in determining if someone involved in an accidednt lives or dies.