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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Also in regards to the bonding the top tier end user's speed are been doubled so the statistical contention remains the same.

Not quite. Usage often does not go up linearly with max speed - double a user's speed and they may download more but not 100% more.

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Originally Posted by roughbeast

It is the limited capacity at street level that is the problem and that architectural decisions made historically have limited that capacity, though in some locations more than others. You can only do so much by upgrading kit, such as network cards.

Yes, it's already been said but I'll reiterate - core bandwidth is not the problem, VM has plenty of it; at street level, the theoretical max a coax cable can carry, under perfect conditions and assuming no analogue, digital or OD TV would be slightly less than ~6gbps IIRC. Which isn't bad, but most of it cannot be used most of the time.

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Originally Posted by finaldest

If this is indeed the case would it not be in VM best intrest to upgrade the cable run from the cabinet to FTTH? If this is possible in order to remove the bottleneck.

Ideally, everyone would run FTTH but it is far too expensive, and not really a practical upgrade path right now over the current DOCSIS cable architecture.

Though to be fair, the cable from the cabinet isn't a big problem either as it can carry several gigabits, it's the number of homes and cabinets sharing one bigger cable to the fibre/optical node/CMTS.

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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks

Ignition has said it will be a straightforward protocol agnostic byte count but moderated by local network loading. That will catch everything including using VPNs and the like. If it works it will cause moaning for sure.

I'd moan, as I currently evade all throttles and shaping, but as I said earlier it'd be the most logical, sensible, and fair thing VM has ever done in terms of traffic management. And about as close to the ideal/perfect solution I can think of.

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

the 200 and 400mb trails are being done in the same areas that have the same upgrade as what getting done and if virgin didnt future proof it then there dum because they need ot pay mroe money out, i think yoru right about 1.5gb as it ina one area trial and using a different configuration

Those areas have further upgrades in excess of the 100mb upgrades to enable the trials.

The initial 100mb rollout only included 4 downstream channels and 1 unbonded upstream. That is neither capable of 200 or 400mb service.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

For more on statistical contention Google is your friend, it's a well explained phenomenon both mathematically and practically in broadband networks.

Ah yes, the beauty of statistical contention. Not just on broadband networks either; pretty much all shared networks involve it to some extent.