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Originally Posted by Chris
Oh, right. So as long as there's not an excessively high oil price, unsustainable pay demands are ok. That makes sense.
Go right ahead, by the way. The frothing loony left were the best advertisement possible for the medicine of Thatcherism in 1979. With any luck there will be just as much short-sighted activism over the next 3 years to guarantee us a 100% Tory government in 2015.
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Do you mean Ms Thatcher the PM, the one who finished the job (stated since 1945) of killing British Industry, Sending the all but the home counties to the dole, increased unemployment, aidied the Rise of Murdoch, Made bus and Rail serives worse and with the help of other right wingers (around the world in the 80s) create a economic system the enriched the 1% and cause recessions in the early 80s, late 80s/early 90s, Early 2000s and late 2000s (not help by the fact the governments both left and right wing who kept this failed system going), along with destroying opportunities for all but the very richest!
If there is one thing good about her is that she is a strong leader (unlike Major and Cameron)!
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
By advocating union militancy you are indeed falling into the right-wingers' trap. Blatantly politically motivated or totally unreasonable strikes simply strengthen public support for stronger legislation, which isn't really required but could do with being tidied up.
One really big part that could do with tidying up is the ability by unions to toss previous agreements out of the window and strike to change them.
You also forgot that to get striking requires a fairly closed shop or a certain barrier to being replaced which for many doesn't exist. People who strike themselves stupid simply make themselves unemployed, either through forcing their employer to fold or to downsize and make them redundant.
The alternative is of course that people do indeed get their pay rises, and the costs of everything go up to cover those pay rises, then people demand more pay rises to cover the cost of their wage inflation, etc, etc.
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By people far more easily replaced than tube drivers. Excellent news for everyone bar the tube drivers, and given there are not many of them and millions of people they inconvenience and businesses they cost millions every time they strike you'll have to forgive me for not caring less about their fate. They've made the rod for their own backs with their wage demands which have made the numbers for replacing them with automatic systems add up all the more quickly.
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I would disagree with you point about automatic trains, for example the Trains on the Victoria Line, Central Line, Jubilee Line have Automatic train operation and if there is one person on board, like on the DLR, as long as they are Unionised, they can (and they have) still strike
Also we need to change unions laws in favor of the workers and unions