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Old 28-12-2011, 09:27   #51
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Re: Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6

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Originally Posted by David H View Post
First point, catchup TV is selective and don't include everything, and whatever they do have is only kept for a week. Big Brother winner's week wasn't included and took me days to find the only existing podcast.

As for Tivo, remember not everyone (including myself) has a Tivo. As they are rented rather than bought (on Virgin anyway) then until the switchover is completed I will not be spending my £3 a month thank you. I know it takes years to reach the price of buying one but they've already made thousands from our existing £70 a month fees so hardly need the extra.

But the crucial point is you can only watch something on Tivo when you remember to record it. If not, then you need +1, nothing else will guarantee seeing something.
I know it's slightly off topic, but I just wanted to pick up on the point you make about box ownership. Unless you have an insurance plan, Sky look to charge you approx. £65 to come and fix your box for you when it goes wrong. There is no equivalent charge with Virgin.

Secondly, whilst it is often the case that a threat to leave Sky means they won't charge you this amount, the same can be often be said of Virgin customers looking to avoid the monthly Tivo service charge. And don't forget that the fact that Sky boxes use an internal power supply board made with poor quality components, unlike Tivo with it's external transformer, means you WILL need a repair with Sky at some point.

Thirdly, I left Sky after they had come out to replace my stb on three occasions, all free of charge because I threatened to leave. On the fourth occasion I needed a repair I threatened to leave if they charged me for the call out, and they told me I could go! So I did. I took advantage of the benefit of stb ownership and sold my Sky+ box. For £20.

I find it very difficult to make a compelling argument for box ownership over the Virgin model. High call out charges, hassle to get them waived and very little residual value in a used box.
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