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Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Ahhh, but David comes with the torture baggage.

I think labour are destined to spend years in opposition / the political wastelands unless there is a root and branch overhaul of the party and its ethics.

I don't see that happening any time soon.

Maybe the party does need a root or branch reform but l think the ethics in all the parties are pretty questionable as it stands and as for possibly spending many years in opposition well if the economic climate remains the same for the next 4 or 5 years which seems pretty likely then the coalition are likely to be blamed by the electorate and thus dumped out of power thus allowing Labour to probably form the next government even with Mr Ed in charge if he is still there.