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Old 15-12-2011, 20:26   #6502
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Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice View Post
YMMV Issue - was referring to Tivo generally not just iplayer, it is definitely NOT the finished product by a long stretch. Just go over the VM Support forum and catch the thread on those returning Tivo's
The thing is, several iterations of TiVo with various aspects of the bugginess/slowness that the VM TiVo has were released as allegedly "finished products" in the States. I guess that's why TiVo has never really taken off there, and why they barely turn a profit if they're lucky. Should have got us moany Brits on board earlier to pick holes in the design so that it might be improved.

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice View Post
Express Links - agree a good idea but badly implemented for several reasons one of which you mentioned namely user configurable; back to back padding implications also has to be addressed, it is worse than what the Sky box does on this, see http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...-O/td-p/913291
Yeah I don't like the wasteful two tuner approach with back-to-back shows either which is why I try to avoid padding, but I've noticed BBC Three are about three to five minutes behind schedule almost all the time, like it's being run by interns or something. At least that way the two (or more?) episodes are in their own contiguous files, even if both files have some crossover in terms of content (last five minutes of one is first five minutes of t'other).

The only way I can see to remedy that is to let the first recording over-run by the correct amount of padding, start the second one late by that amount of padding and then take the padding part of the first one and append it to the second one. Expecting the TiVo to remux files while also recording seems a little much at this stage though.

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice View Post
Overall I do like Tivo though so don't get me wrong here when I do criticize it. Just don't want VM to take their focus away from progressively improving it. 15.2 update can only be the start and it is not just about new features but improving what is there already.
Agree wholeheartedly, but Virgin Media have to serve two masters here - those who want refinements and those who want new features. Plus those in the middle of the two camps, like myself.

It's just a shame regular customers can't beta test and feedback directly to the developers... I'd be more than happy to document bugs and suggest features and I know I'm not alone there.

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I'm pretty sure that if you go to any support forum you'll get a skewed view as most of the people posting will be the ones with problems. You can't use a support forum as a basis of the quality of a product.
So true. It's easy to get this insular vision when a bunch of people in the same situation get together, distorting the facts between themselves so it appears that the problem is much more widespread than it actually is. Human psychology, eh?

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Back to the red button issue though, I can't see the TiVo app versions ever working as transparently as they do on the other STBs Virgin Media supports on it's network. To be fair to the American side of the development team, they don't have anything like that over in the States so doing something from scratch is a learning experience for them, plus testing must be a very protracted process.

Obviously being proved wrong on that point would be great, and the red button service will be flawless by this time next year.
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