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Old 15-12-2011, 16:39   #5277
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Post Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.

Yeah, I figured I'd get 'feedback' (backlash) on that! Still, here comes my defence!

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Originally Posted by Jameseh View Post
It was never changed, DVB-T (Freeview) had never promised to deliver HD television. DVB-T2 was then deployed for that exact reason.
Okay but HD-ready TVs with built-in Freeview were bought with the expectation by many that they would be capable of receiving HD without an external STB and they were probably sold on that basis too.

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Originally Posted by Jameseh View Post
The 'S' simply refers to the model having only upgraded hardware but the physical design of the phone staying the same. The S-less version of the phone still gets the same updates (up to a point).
Exactly, I meant that there was no hardware upgrade path. The S-less version may be able to continue to take software updates (up to a point) but it can't support hardware that it doesn't have but which a later revision of the same model does have. I'd be upset if I bought an iPad having been told that it was not intended to be an iPhone and would never be capable of connecting to a cellular mobile phone network only to find that within a few months a later model would do just that.

My understanding was that iOS could only be updated within it's ancestral line (i.e. an iPhone 3 will not run iPhone 4 software) but I may have to revise that view. The nomenclature of the software and hardware is very ambiguous and confusing.

Maybe the S suffix should be a $ sign.

I was a big Apple fan back in the 80s but I think the late Mr. Jobs is overrated as a great visionary. I think Apple stopped being Apple when it got too big and Woz left.

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Refunds and bumpers were offered.
It just shouldn't have happened and is a poor experience for the customer. I wouldn't want a refund, I'd want the product I had paid for to work. Also, I fail to see how plying me with automotive spare parts could be expected to appease me.

If you add it all up, the number of fixes to the iOS software and the problems with hardware indicate a poorly designed and (in-house) tested suite of products which have ended up being field-tested by paying customers and enhanced based on their complaints of the products' shortcomings. Isn't that the Microsoft strategy?

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While I disagree with every example you've given, I understand the point you've made.
Your're very agreeable for a disagreeable old so and so!

To justify that all of that was on topic ...

My concern is that TiVo has been rolled out in a similar way to the iThing family of products although, so far, I'm not aware of newer hardware being released leaving those who forked out £250 up front high and dry with an inferior device. That said, I wouldn't want to have been an early adopter who paid a lot for a TiVo. Did they get refunds or freebies?
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