[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Damien

Not if they use a rifle.

True..

Originally Posted by NitroNutter

Further more you are not the only member of staff here who deploys such bullying tactics knowingly against survivors of indecent assault as I have in the past in a similarly topicalised thread here had it admitted by an openly gay female member of staff the wider gay community will knowingly be bullying victims of gay assault till all who do not conform to the will of the gay community victims or otherwise are silent.

If survivors are not entitled to a point of view based on life experience without being attacked, ridiculed and further bullied then just exactly who is ?

You are entitled to a point of view. We just ask that any opinions expressed in a thread have something to do with that thread.

Besides the fact I still believe you cannot redefine a formal mariage due to its inherent relationship with kinship from a hopefully stable heterosexual partnership without compromising its previous definition despite having always believed the commitment to you partner should be beyond a slip of paper:

I've seen nothing to suggest that two gay partners cannot be as devoted to each other as two straight partners.

Various rape and sexual violence organisations around the country primarily setup for women are becoming gravely concerned as reports are now showing in excess of 10% of men are being sexually assaulted as children and teenagers. This is causing major funding problems and the organisations are struggling to cope with demand.

There is also growing concern this may well be a grossly innaccurate number due to the fact that many of the reported male incidents are coming in years later due to a natural male inability to report such an incident. This is related to and part of the PTSD suffered by the victim, in many cases the victim will dissassociate the assault making them more vulnerable to further attacks. It is also common for victims to become withdrawn and/or rely on a variety of habitual escapes ie drink and drugs making them further vulnerable to future assaults. There is also all the other risks associated with such substances like health and in many cases crime to feed habitual escapes not to mention the ripple effect on others lives and the countries economy itself as many victims find it impossible to work even when physically fit.

As I have seen it mentioned of being of a "sound state of mind" which I have to say is a very good point I have to wonder just what exactly would constitute falling outside of this category and just exactly how could it be monitored especially in light of the fact that PTSD as a result of male indecent assault is perhaps one of the most severe forms of PTSD known and a common sympton for men is to bury the truth as deep as possible within themselves ?

My own personal opinion as a survivor is far too much has already changed legally in the last quarter century in particular with male homosexuallity and I believe with such high figures of assault amongst men and younger males and their natural inability to disclose such incidents to anyone for so long has left us with grossly insufficent data available to make a sound judgement so we should refrain from rushing into any further changes in law that may make it even harder for male victims to come forward, or in worse case scenarios find themselves in a same sex marriage whilst suffering any number of indecent assault related PTSD symptons not excluding suffering further indecent assaults and be left feeling like they have no way out.

Also due to the nature of these assaults and the severe phsycological impact it has on the victims the 16-20 year age group has in my opinion been left totally unprotected with some of the recent changes in law which should be considered a gross oversight as this age group has been left inexplicably exposed to exploitation from older generations by those who should have had the wisdom to foresee at least some of these problems with already existing research and there is no doubt in my mind this urgently needs to change for both genders and both sexualities.

The thing is that you are talking about assault. This is a nasty part of life, but it is not limited to men assaulting men. Men assault women, and women are quite capable of assault as well.

By your reasoning, we should probably ban heterosexual marriage as well..