[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

If I thought Europe resolving its problems and surging ahead successfully were in any way likely I'd agree with you.

I don't.

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That anti-EU bias is probably quite reflective of popular opinion within the UK.

Many want trade, friendship, co-operation, nothing else. No common fisheries policy, no common agricultural policy and definitely no political or fiscal union.

I'm sorry Alan but if you want me to take the EU seriously you have to do slightly better than the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, the President of the European Commission let alone the President of the European Council.

So you have a former PM of Belgium, the country that just took over a year and a half to form a government, clearly great advertisement for political union, a former Maoist Communist, and a former CND treasurer who has never been elected to office by a public plebiscite ever holding three top jobs.

Yay.

If acted all in the nation interest then, what we will get is somithing like WW2

The United States of Europe would work (unlike Belgium) because there would be no domineering group within the EU (in Belgium, what is happining is that the French and Dutch are both viving for control)