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Originally Posted by TokSik
when I occasionally download something during the day that's fairly big (I usually reserve my downloads to start after midnight), the speed is throttled to that very same speed once I go over about 2 gig. And I did test it with Broadband speed test v312.exe on 2 different machines.
So what else can it be other than traffic management (which is effectively marketing speak for throttling)?
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congestion.
It is not unknown for VM services to be congested at dusk.
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
I would point out that pretty much every residential broadband service in the UK suffers from congestion and contention at some point in the network
To expect a dedicated pipe level of service for the cost of a residential service is unrealistic
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Would also point out that I not sure how the capacity of the network related to the AUP (which is what this thread is about) covering illegal and inappropriate use of the network
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got to correct you here ben.
It is very possible to sell a contended service that has no visible contention. It doesnt need to be a 1:1 service to do that.
I have lost count the amount of times I have had to point this out on forums.
A lot of users at any given time wont be using their connection, so 10:1 contention eg. doesnt mean 10% of speed.
So its very misleading for you to say either we have severe performance issues or buy a leased lined, there is most certianly something in between.
Perhaps its better to state its not realistic for VM to sell unlimited 100mbit for the price it does and to do so it has had to cut corners.
To me it looks clear whats going on, VM have decided (since approx oct 2010) that new capacity will no longer happen to relieve congestion and simply instead are relying on a combination of traffic management and moving users around in musical chairs fashion to spread the pain. New capacity and tech upgrades now seem limited to only supporting new products. So we will probably see eg. the upload bonding come just in time to support this 200/20 product that is due around the olympics.
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Originally Posted by AndyCalling
Seriously folks, VM will be working round the clock to increase capacity ready for the Youview release. If they don't, their network will grind to a halt when normal usage includes watching HD IPTV most evenings.
Yes, hard usage caps are an alternative, but that would mean huge numbers of customers being treated as net abusers which would finish VM so that won't be happening. Not to mention the fact that trying to sell a service where normal usage is crippled or banned for most customers nationwide is certainly against the rules as well as being morally bankrupt. This is not something VM could ever concieve of doing without committing PR suicide, and as far as I am aware VM have not suggested they will go this route. It is only far fetched forum speculation.
Stop worrying.
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Depends on what the limit would be.
eg. a 250gig limit a month would likely be enough for 98-99% of customers. However since on any given UBR a single heavy user can cripple the performance a simple usage cap like that could prove very effective.
However I agree on your PR statement that VM will never drop unlimited unless forced to by a regulator.