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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
<major snippage>What "just cause" is depends upon an individuals circumstances.
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... which neatly side-steps the specific example offered by this discussion. I will stick my neck out and say that no Job Centre would rule the turning down of a job offer 250 miles away as voluntarily making oneself unemployed.
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What is clear, however, is that people turning down work because they "didn't fancy it" or it "wasn't convenient" are likely to receive short thrift if they then turn to the benefits office for help.
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Please don't hide behind generalisations. Under the circumstances I find your comments to be a wilful misrepresentation of the facts as clearly presented in the specific case under discussion.
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In relation to friends and family, I would say that providing for ones immediate family should be the major/deciding factor.
I find it "wet" to hear that people are prepared to limit themselves because they feel the need to be close to their family.
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While respecting your obvious right to live as you choose, in general I find this attitude repugnant. It saddens me to see people limiting their definition of 'providing' to purely financial considerations.
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The world is growing ever smaller too, with contact through the internet/telephones having never been easier and the advent of modern transport.
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Careful, you're starting to sound like a public information film. Believe it or not most of us are aware of the internet. And some of us still find personal contact with those we love and care for to be an infinitely richer and more rewarding experience.
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I once had an 18 year old employee who was offered promotion. It involved him moving about two hours away by train. He started saying how he was close to his family etc. <major snippage>
That was two years ago, about five months ago, he wrote on facebook that he was really proud of what he had achieved for a 20 year old and thanked me, but not by name, one of those "you know who you are" scenarios. I couldn't help having a wry smile to myself as I read it...
I left home at 17, lived all over the UK and worked hard. I have had to move due to work in the past and still have to stay overnight in hotels to this day!
The days of being born in a town with everybody getting a 9-5 permanent job and living like the Walton family are long gone.
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Congratulations, Mr Miyagi.
Again, let's talk about what's specific to the case in point. Masque has already volunteered that he has a mortgage mostly paid off. We can infer his family circumstances if he is at that stage in his life. He has also pointed out that there are others at Albert Dock with children settled in school.
Guess what Richard, a great many of us in this thread left home at 18 and went to university. There is nothing remotely unusual in someone of that age getting out into the world and enjoying the experience, even if they needed a little push to do it.
The point you are persistently, and wilfully, refusing to acknowledge is that there are lots of families represented at Albert Dock. Many of those employees are not 18, do not have a child with a chronic condition or a terminally ill mother or a well-paid spouse. But they are settled in their community with their family around them. Such things are still important to some people and they don't need patronised by people who have sold their souls to their career.
I, too, have done my fair share of travelling and hotel dwelling. I've been pretty well paid for it too. These days I work from home, working hard to try to build a business that pays a lot less but means I see my children before and after school every day and am able to take them to see members of the extended family -in person - without thinking about the logistics or the cost.
My bank balance is a mere shadow of what it was. And I wouldn't swap back for anything.
You, sir, have my pity.