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Originally Posted by Dush
You can download how ever much you want without effecting anyone if you just keep it after midnight. That's such an easy solution to the issue. The issue isn't people downloading more than 1tb, it's when they do. VM need to educate customers about this. They did this to me with the letter they wrote me about the 9am-9pm restrictions.
I would imagine that I'm one of VM's best customers in terms of not effecting other people even though I use between 400-900gb a month. I barely use my connection throughout the day, I actually posted a graph of my most recent 24 hour period in the thinkbroadband results thread. But when it's after 00:00 I hammer it for at least an hour sometimes three.
Someone using their internet connection 'legitimately' to stream HD youtube after work is effecting other users more than a heavy downloader who downloads over night. So my point is it's not heavy users, it's the time of usage that's critical.
No question a heavy user should be penalised by shaping if they are downloading at peak times. But for me in that scenario it makes no sense to have a connection over 30mbit since I can't use it when I want.
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Right, so you really think that Youview boxes are going to be watched only after midnight? And that streaming gaming services are only going to be played whilst in bed? I think you are underestimating the potential popularity here.
Usage patterns are about to radically change in the UK. Yes, there should be management to keep the top 5% in check. The rest of us should be able to expect ISP provision to allow us to continue with our normal usage patterns. To restrict normal usage to after midnight is madness. VM and other ISPs will have have to move with the times or fail. They have no choice.
By the way folks, Tivo has noting to do with this. VM may add Youview to their Tivos, or they may not. It's their business and if they want to encourage Tivo users to pick up a Youview box from the Supermarket to go beside their cable box then fine. I suspect many may find that they don't spend enough time watching the cable box after a while to justify the cost, thus VM will be helping recession hit families save money. Very socially conscientious, I will be impressed with VM if they stick to their guns on this. Many VM users do not buy cable TV anyway though, and will be using Youview and expecting it to work well. If VM point at the Tivo and tell people to use that instead they will lose custom big time. Needless to say, they will not be doing this whatever their vision of next gen telly currently is.