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11-11-2011, 12:27

I am fortunate to live in leicestershire where we have a brilliant carer's organisation called CLASP they are the only reason i got the DLA i should have and they support carer's all year round. Thats one of the first big problems with the system right there that people have to have groups to help them get what they are entitled too is stupid.

As for how do you improve the system how about actually involving the nhs people that are familiar with those of us on long term IB instead of asking a useless organisation like atos who sometimes don't even have properly qualified people doing assessments ask the real professionals who deal with us all year round.

If the government was really interested in cutting fraud surely the nhs could play both a massive and very useful part in that. As i have said on here and other places in the past i think the system needs to split into medically confirmed and non medically confirmed because if people have a genuine problem the consultants\gp's\nurses may not be able to give an exact diagnosis but they can attest there is a genuine problem.

There are many ideas from many qualified people on how the system can be improved and streamlined for the benefit of both the claimants and the taxpayer and neither this government or the last was interested. Instead going for headline grabbing tar brushing generalisations that placate the very loud vocal minority spurred on by the likes of the daily hate.

Fact is the vulnerable in this country make such a slow moving easy target for any person looking for a scapegoat. In reality they talk about wanting to do this and that but at the end of the day change very little because then they would lose their scapegoat. Genuine claimants get hit a lot more then the frauds because most of us who are genuine hate being on benefit we hate feeling like scroungers and it takes little to push us to the point of not claiming although we end up hurting ourseleves more.

Frauds don't care, they don't have any guilt and they don't have any problem with what they do and they always update themselves on the latest changes and work ways round it. They can only do that because we have a section of welfare that deals with medical problems and doesn't actually listen to the very service in this country that is tasked with helping those of us with problems funny that isn't it.

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RizzyKing Guest Posts: n/a	Re: For those of us unfit to work I am fortunate to live in leicestershire where we have a brilliant carer's organisation called CLASP they are the only reason i got the DLA i should have and they support carer's all year round. Thats one of the first big problems with the system right there that people have to have groups to help them get what they are entitled too is stupid. As for how do you improve the system how about actually involving the nhs people that are familiar with those of us on long term IB instead of asking a useless organisation like atos who sometimes don't even have properly qualified people doing assessments ask the real professionals who deal with us all year round. If the government was really interested in cutting fraud surely the nhs could play both a massive and very useful part in that. As i have said on here and other places in the past i think the system needs to split into medically confirmed and non medically confirmed because if people have a genuine problem the consultants\gp's\nurses may not be able to give an exact diagnosis but they can attest there is a genuine problem. There are many ideas from many qualified people on how the system can be improved and streamlined for the benefit of both the claimants and the taxpayer and neither this government or the last was interested. Instead going for headline grabbing tar brushing generalisations that placate the very loud vocal minority spurred on by the likes of the daily hate. Fact is the vulnerable in this country make such a slow moving easy target for any person looking for a scapegoat. In reality they talk about wanting to do this and that but at the end of the day change very little because then they would lose their scapegoat. Genuine claimants get hit a lot more then the frauds because most of us who are genuine hate being on benefit we hate feeling like scroungers and it takes little to push us to the point of not claiming although we end up hurting ourseleves more. Frauds don't care, they don't have any guilt and they don't have any problem with what they do and they always update themselves on the latest changes and work ways round it. They can only do that because we have a section of welfare that deals with medical problems and doesn't actually listen to the very service in this country that is tasked with helping those of us with problems funny that isn't it.