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Originally Posted by InfiDELL
" if anything if there's already capacity problems it'll make it worse"
explain that please
I'm not caped for unfair usage is what know for sure.
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What igni is referring to is the contention present in the service. Sorry if this is patronising, but I think I'd better explain what I mean by contention. Put simply, no consumer ISP installs enough bandwidth in an area for all of their users to max out their connection 24/7. They could not afford to for what the consumer is willing to pay. They work on the assumption that most people will use their connection relatively little. So, for each user's worth of bandwidth they buy, they will allow 20 or 30 users on the network.
If you want a 1:1 (or uncontended) connection, you need to look at paying a grand or two a month.
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And really no, 1mbit upload is not damn ample for 30 mbit connection.
Is really not enough. Not for multiplayer games. I had other connections before and I know.
Multiplayer games require some good upload speed (1 mbit is minimal) because as simple I can explain: as long as you can download the state of a player on the map same he(the other player- and can be 50 on the server or more) has to do in same time and in matter of a second or more depending on the pace of the game, but because you're upload can't face it (and has other tray programs and open ports in windows on his back without u using them and is some stupid unwanted traffic created also by windows services) will result in lagg.
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All the game needs to send is the position of each player, and possibly a few objects (such as bullets) and a little other infomation (the way the player is facing, whether they are crouching etc). This isn't a lot of information. It does need to arrive quickly though, which means that the number of hops between the server hosting the game and each client needs to be minimised, and where latency and lag come in. This is where the VM network often loses out, as the connection between a client and server frequently requires a lot of hops.
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Win 7 and Vista has much more traffic than XP and the future windowses will have even more. Traffic not controlled by user. I'm not talking about windows updates either.
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Actually, no, they don't. Unless you are hosting your own services (web, email etc).
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But hey VM know most of the people run windows and is hungry itself in upload why so low the uploads than? A marketing tool to force people to buy bigger packages?
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Clearly VM don't think upload is as much of a marketing tool as you think. If they did, they'd be plastering it all over their advertising..
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Whichever part you turn this problem on something is very clear any decent broadband should have 25% upload or more. That is a standard and should be followed.In my case that is at least 3.33 mbit
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Where is 25% upload a standard? Certainly not the UK ISP market, which is where VM are competing.
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I used some 50mb /6-7 mb with peaks of 10 upload and I well know what is huge difference and not because of the damn download for sure.
50/1.75 is a joke hope u'll be upgraded soon well if u play MP games otherwise I guess you might not be bothered for waiting longer to upload a file.
 ...on the other hand I don't want to take my "business" anywhere even if you say so and don't know why should I?
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Why should you? Simple. You can SAY that you are unhappy with your service all you want, but as long as you are paying for it, VM aren't really worried what you say. They are getting your money, and that's all they want when it comes down to it.
Also, the beauty of a capitalist economy such as ours is that in most cases, if you are unhappy with a service or product, a competing service or product may provide what you want or need. You may find a competing ISP (such as Be) is better for you.
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Yes is a lot of money for a crappy connection go check services like this in other countries and tell me the same thing "I shall endeavor to apprehend the matter"
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You wouldn't believe it to look on here, but the UK actually has some of the cheapest fast broadband connections in the world..