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Chrysalis · 28-10-2011, 18:00

To start with they need to get rid of Frued. He is an ex banker and knows how to make money, so what is he doing advising on welfare? his sole purpose must be to tell the government how to cut the welfare bill and thats it. Shows how wrong their current attitude is.

Now I have no problem with improving efficiency and such, but the well being of the claimants should be a high priority and at the same time there should be limitations in what financial help they get as it has to stay reasonable. But everything that is happening now with the sick is just very wrong, its not even close to been balanced. eg. doing medical reviews every 3 months, its as if they think people just have the flu or something and will get better over night.

I emailed both osborne and duncan smith about suggestions and ideas based on my experience (ex claimant and lots of charity work helping claimants) but I didnt even get the courtesy of a reply. Yet they happy to listen to the rich for 50k a meal.

The new ESA has an extra category 'limited capability to work' which is where the bulk of successful claimants are been put, less money and have to do work related activity. My problem is I think the DWP should help with them getting doable jobs but not force them. Basically there is a lot of people on IB/ESA who want to work, this goes against what the daily mail say but is true. So they should be helped and the ones who dont but have legally been declared unfit for work should be left alone, unless of course new evidence comes to light suggesting they fit for work. Its a very important point to make as well that if someone declared unfit for work is made to do work related activity and their health declines, they can sue the DWP. I expect within 5 years we will see this happen and after one person wins the floodgates will open. Dont make the mistake thinking no one will win, because claimants have a very high success rate on appeals and tribunals.

The assessment has been changed yet again this month, and in addition the expiry time for returning ESA50 forms has decreased so they still seem to be just making it harsher and harsher. The end game is probably to have next to no claimants as some people seem to think people of working age cannot get crippling chronic conditions.

28-10-2011, 18:00	#32
Chrysalis cf.mega poster Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 12,050	Re: For those of us unfit to work To start with they need to get rid of Frued. He is an ex banker and knows how to make money, so what is he doing advising on welfare? his sole purpose must be to tell the government how to cut the welfare bill and thats it. Shows how wrong their current attitude is. Now I have no problem with improving efficiency and such, but the well being of the claimants should be a high priority and at the same time there should be limitations in what financial help they get as it has to stay reasonable. But everything that is happening now with the sick is just very wrong, its not even close to been balanced. eg. doing medical reviews every 3 months, its as if they think people just have the flu or something and will get better over night. I emailed both osborne and duncan smith about suggestions and ideas based on my experience (ex claimant and lots of charity work helping claimants) but I didnt even get the courtesy of a reply. Yet they happy to listen to the rich for 50k a meal. The new ESA has an extra category 'limited capability to work' which is where the bulk of successful claimants are been put, less money and have to do work related activity. My problem is I think the DWP should help with them getting doable jobs but not force them. Basically there is a lot of people on IB/ESA who want to work, this goes against what the daily mail say but is true. So they should be helped and the ones who dont but have legally been declared unfit for work should be left alone, unless of course new evidence comes to light suggesting they fit for work. Its a very important point to make as well that if someone declared unfit for work is made to do work related activity and their health declines, they can sue the DWP. I expect within 5 years we will see this happen and after one person wins the floodgates will open. Dont make the mistake thinking no one will win, because claimants have a very high success rate on appeals and tribunals. The assessment has been changed yet again this month, and in addition the expiry time for returning ESA50 forms has decreased so they still seem to be just making it harsher and harsher. The end game is probably to have next to no claimants as some people seem to think people of working age cannot get crippling chronic conditions.