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Old 27-10-2011, 23:59   #60
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Re: Unfair dismissal could be abolished

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Originally Posted by martyh View Post
It's not going to leave them anywhere Maggie .There will still be employment rules ,we aren't talking about abolition of unfair dismissal across the board just for those who are unproductive and that would have to be proven,if a pregnant women is productive and does her job well then she has nothing to worry about .
Except we are... or at least the author of the report is.

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No it doesn't at all ,as i said earlier any employer would have to prove the need for dismissal as they do now ,written and verbal warnings ect ,the only difference is dragging a company through a costly, time consuming and quite often pointless tribunal won't be a automatic right
Where do you get that from? The point is not just to remove the "threat" of being taken to a tribunal afterwards, but also to make it quicker and easier to dismiss people in the first place. Dismissal via standard disciplinary procedures could still be used, however the company could simply use the proposed new method instead to remove someone quicker than the "verbal, written, final warning" route.



Yes, the stated reason for removing unfair dismissal is to "make it easier to remove underperforming employees", but it is not "only" those kinds of employees for whom the unfair dismissal process would be removed - it is actually wholesale removal "across the board" which is being discussed, to be replaced with "Compensated No Fault Dismissal" (because simply removing it completely and leaving it at that would be even more politically unacceptable).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/j...t-advises.html

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Originally Posted by The Telegraph
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The radical recommendation to scrap the concept of unfair dismissal is made by Adrian Beecroft, a venture capitalist, in a report commissioned by David Cameron.

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The report concludes that there is nothing in European law that would prevent the Government from abandoning unfair dismissal laws – although regulations preventing dismissal on the basis of a person’s gender, race or sexuality would remain.

However, Mr Beecroft warns that simply scrapping the law would be “politically unacceptable”.

He therefore recommends a replacement regulation, called Compensated No Fault Dismissal, which would allow employers to sack unproductive staff with basic redundancy pay and notice. Mr Beecroft concedes that a “downside” under his new scheme is that employers could fire staff because they “did not like them”.

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See also The Original Report (link from the Telegraph story)
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