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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
Indeed but the statment from Chrysalis.
"working age vulnerable dont get anything tho" isn't accurate which is why I posted about it.
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who does then?
seems some confusion has arisen.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/moneytax...nt/dg_10018668
There is cold weather payments and winter fuel payments. 2 seperate ones.
cold weather payments people on income support can claim it as well as state pensioners but is dependent on the actual weather.
The obvious problem with that is people who dont get income based benefits do not qualify, the way the system works its entirely possible and does happen that people on income support have a higher income than those not on income based benefits. eg. if someone qualifies for both income based JSA and contribution based, regardless of savings etc. they will go on contribution based which pays the same as income base (base rate). The former gets more help tho even tho they on the same income. What would be a better idea is like HC2 certificates where people claim and their qualification is calculated on their income levels, what benefits they may be on and if they work is all irellevant. Is going off topic a bit but is a reason why I dont like where income support is used as a way to qualify someone, because its a unfair method of means testing. This sort of situation can go on for years, if someone is on long term IB but via NI contributions (they have work history) then they will always be on it for their duration as IB also pays NI contributions for them to keep it going, whilst if someone is on IB without a work history they will be on income based version and it effectively counts as income support, they would then qualify for this extra help even tho they on exactly the same level of benefit/income.
Now the winter fuel payments which is what I believe was the original benefit been discussed is the following.
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Who can get it
If you were born on or before 5 January 1951 you may qualify. It’s not means tested and you can get it if you’re still working or claiming a benefit.
If you were born after 5 January 1951, find out when you’ll qualify for Winter Fuel Payment on the following link.
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Its a garuantueed amount regardless of weather and not means tested.
It sums up the problem with our welfare system, the boundaries of qualifying for something is a straight line, you either get it or you dont, those just below the line will be better off than those just above the line.