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Old 02-10-2011, 10:12   #40
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Re: Should i worry?

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq View Post
Didn't we figure out already torrents (and all other P2P combined) use something like less than 1/4 of VM's network capacity?
During shaping periods, in theory, yes. If they didn't use more than that unshaped though people wouldn't notice much of a performance hit when using them during managed periods.

It's also been noted that the shaping seems as much use as a chocolate fireguard when people really try and hide what they're doing, which is why protocol agnostic solutions are the future and will be on a cable ISP near you in time.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis View Post
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Sandvine who manage traffic for comcast I believe said now days the % of download activity that is torrents is barely a 1/5 but its a significant amount of upload traffic.

http://www.sandvine.com/news/global_...and_trends.asp
Check the European bit, we don't have Netflix and iPlayer uses considerably less. Given the discussion is congestion the table below is probably most relevant, and the upload section most relevant of all.



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In the United Kingdom, BBC iPlayer comprises 6.6% of peak downstream traffic
P2P, etc, according to Sandvine will be as a minimum 65% of upstream traffic. There'll be some torrent traffic which wasn't identified due to obfuscation, some of the SSL will be NNTP, the Teredo will pretty much 100% be torrents.

59.68% torrents + 3.64% PPStream + 1.76% ED2K gives you 65% without even needing assumptions.

It's not a huge leap to imagine areas where an upstream is running at 50% 24x7 due to P2P or NNTP encapsulated in something else, this is a problem for cable companies throughout the world and one VM are addressing, however it's a more complicated process than the initial shaping deployment.
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