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Old 13-08-2011, 11:11   #1009
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Re: Riots

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Originally Posted by Gary L View Post
All this is ok for the criminality side of it all, but what about the long term problem. is the government going to 'help' or are we just going to regard all youths as criminals now?
I think the government has had a bit of a shock to be honest .They will have to realise that just throwing these people in jail will not cure the underlying problems ,yes ,punishment for crimes committed is important and necessary but tackling the reasons why people do these things is just as important if not more


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such as they're bombarded with adverts and such for this and that which they'll never be able to afford.
they feel like nobody listens or cares about them and their future.
There were jobs promised for those in the area of the olympics which was 'a lie'
acepting that you need to work to buy nice things like expensive phones tellys and x box's is part of how you are raised not a thing the government should be made responsible for


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I actually agreed with some of the points being made by the black gang youth worker. and the point made about there wereonly 4 channels when someone grew up. he wasn't bombarded with you can have this and that if youhad money.
the only thing I saw growing up that was wealth was a car and a house.
as above ,they need educating to realise that stealing is not the way to get nice gets things

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what does everyone think about the example where stealing water worth £3 and getting I think 6 or 9 months prison. and an MP stealing £8,000 and saying sorry?
and the bankers losing the country millions and being paid bonuses for it?
the sentence is a bit ott when you compare it to muggers and burglars,but the authorities are using them as a example and rightly so imo .The problem is though that young people getting harsh sentencing will see the soft punishment dished out to mp's caught fiddling and defrauding as "one rule for them and one rule for us" so that needs adressing as part of the cure

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is this it now. are we going to clamp down hard on the youth of today, or are we going to do something to help them?
if the answer comes down to just go out and get a job, then I don't think we're going to get anywhere really.
Hopefully not ,clamp down certainly when crimes are commited ,by all sections of society not just the disadvantaged ,but we do need to give them a way out of poverty and a life on the dole ,but they need to help themselves as well they cannot just rely on the government to keep giving them free money .
The government have a duty to create the circumstances where jobs and a better lifestyle will be created the youth have to want to take those chances offered and better themselves .

---------- Post added at 12:11 ---------- Previous post was at 12:09 ----------

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Originally Posted by danielf View Post
Someone stop the press. An eminently sensible post by Gary! (has his account been hacked?)
I know ,i was surprised and impressed

gold star to Gary
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