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Old 21-07-2011, 11:11   #847
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet View Post
Not really, he's neither confirming nor denying. Labour politicians know very well what the truth is, and how utterly pointless the whole affair is.

This is about the behaviour of all the media now, that's why the investigation covers more than just NI. Sadly you can't just look at the behaviour of one small segment of the cohort to the exclusion of all else. That rather becomes a witch hunt.

Much as I dislike Cameron I'll repeat something that he said repeatedly yesterday - is there any evidence of improper behaviour by the ******* Coulson while he worked at #10?

If there isn't why are people banging on about him. If that's the best line of attack the opposition have we should all be very worried indeed. Hell we already have the one Labour guy pontificating about how he wrote to the PM to, err, recycle an anonymous allegation and then forget that he received a written reply to try and score a few points.
Why is it, that those who are supporting Cameron in this, continue to harp on about Labour? I am being constantly accused of raising partisan issues in this thread, when I have merely asked one very relevant question, hundreds of posts ago, about the election. But here we are again, with yet another poster accusing the Labour governemnt of something that they are not being implicated in, other than not taking action when they supposedly could have. This is nothing to do with party politics, but you and others seem intent on making it so and then have the audacity to blame it on others.

The very reason why people are "banging" on about Coulson, is directly related to his being hired by Cameron, when he should have know full well what his history was. The fact that he was warned by several people (his refusal to neither confirm nor deny that serves only strengthens people's opinion of his complicity) of very real risks of being associated with Coulson, but decided to hire him anyway, raises even more questions: Why did he ignore the warnings? Who recommended the appointment? What was news International's involvement in Copulson's appointment and did Rupert Murdoch personally support it.

Then there is the involvement of Brooks, to consider: How close was her relationship with Cameron in respect of the BSkyB bidding process. What conversations took place relating to the bid and what other conversations occurred between Cameron and the rest of the News Corp executive?

There are many many more unanswered questions here, the very fact that the remain unanswered, is enough to raise suspicion that Cameron is hiding something.

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Originally Posted by Maggy J View Post
Ok to Flyboy.I'm traditionally labour inclined.

However in this case..Labour do not have any cleaner hands.If anything they are dirtier because MOST of the abuse by NOTW was done during their running of the government.
Dave has only been in office for a couple of years..So if there is going to be finger wagging from the public it's going to be pointing at Labour.This Labourite is certainly doing so anyway.

Party politics must be put aside on this issue.We need as a country to be united in getting to the bottom where ever it leads us and to set in place measures that do not allow the situation that led to it happening happen again.We need an ombudsmen/quango/committee with teeth and the ability to chuck offenders out of the profession who do not adhere to certain ethical practices.We need for corrupt police to be identified and prosecuted.But above all we need all politicians from ALL parties, involved in dealings with NI,NOTW and the Murdochs to be honest about their activities.

Cameron is just one of MANY who in hindsight behaved stupidly.
But it is not me who is raising the issue of party politics. I have one single solitary post on this thread, where I have mentioned the Tory party, asking a very relevant question about the election, over four hundred posts ago. Yet we constantly see Cameron's supporters bringing this back to the Labour Party.

Cameron is at the very centre of this controversy. His involvement is pivotal to this whole saga. He is the one who hired Coulson, someone who he knew to have allegedly been involved in criminal behaviour, possibly on the recommendation, or orders, of Rupert Murdoch. His complicity can not be ignored.
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