[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Which is a total no-win and a complete honeypot question. Of course someone at News International at some point would have mentioned it to him, however as soon as he gives an inch and admits that the Labour party will take a mile in their obsession with trying to score points.

Still it means they can continue to avoid having any policies for a while longer so long as they can continue to get mileage out of this.

I'll repeat my previous comments on this issue, there are a number of extremely major issues ongoing in the country and the world, a judicial enquiry has been initiated, there is really nothing more to do with this other than political points scoring and mud slinging. Our law makers have far better things to do than the things Labour are trying to keep at the forefront. Truly a party with absolutely no policies right now, just a line up of attack dogs waiting for a new angle of attack. The country deserves far better from the opposition than the turgid pile of excrement that is the current Labour party. If they weren't so crap it may encourage the pretty lacklustre government to up their game.

In which case he is being deceitful.

In terms of point scoring, what was all that nonsense about Tom Baldwin then? That really was the cheapest points of all. As far as I am aware, neither Mr Baldwin, nor The Times, have been implicated in any of this. If that is the best defence they have then they need to be very worried indeed.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Cameron has said he asked coulson if he had any involvement in the phone hacking and was assured by andy coulson he had played no part in it add to that the checks made on coulson clearly came up ok and cameron employed him. Of all the issues in this whole affair i cannot help thinking gettiing bogged down in andy coulson is letting a lot of other people off a very big hook.

Now cameron has come out and said he regrets hiring the guy and in hindsight wouldn't do it again what more do people want from him. I think we need to get back on point here and not keep getting distracted on this one issue that only exists because people want cameron's head on a plate whether it belongs there or not.

We have at least ten years of politicians relations with NI to cast an eye over and that period includes the tories and labour i personally want the investigation to get going fully get to the facts and whoever may have acted badly be shown and punished.

The problem is though, he keeps changing his story. First he didn't have that conversation, then he did, then it is Coulson might have lied.....what will be next?

The point of the concentration of the relationship Cameron has had with News International, goes beyond just he and Coulson. His constant refusal to answer questions, relating to conversations he might have had with these people, over the BSkyB bid, throws a very dark cloud over his integrity and judgement. Then there are all the warnings he was given, but he ignored them and employed the man anyway. There was sufficient evidence available to cast reasonable suspicion over his involvement, but this was ignored.

Cameron's provarication over what checks were carried out, is another question that remains unanswered. His refusal to provide details of those checks and the constant referral to, "basic checks carried out." Why only "basic checks?" Why not a thorough in-depth investigation of someone who would be within the "inner circle" of Downing Street? Especially after all the warnings that had been given. Basic checks are not afforded to the cleaner at Number Ten, let alone the communications director.

Surely you must see that they are very important points that need addressing. The Prime Minister of this country has been implicated as being complicit in the behaviour of those who have been alleged to have carried out criminal acts and refuses to give straightforward answers to questions about the depth of that involvement or complicity, that is most certainly something to be concerned about.

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Originally Posted by Chris

I always thought the Millipede would turn out to be a one-trick insect, and it seems as if we may just have seen it.

He landed a few good punches on Cameron over the past few days as regards Andy Coulson. The problem now is, he seems mesmerised by his own success and unable to do anything more than keep repeating it over and over again.

Unless any completely new information comes out that compromises Cameron to the point of resignation, Millipede needs to just get on with the job of opposition, reminding himself that the general election is still almost 4 years away and that no matter how much he might like to keep banging on about the News of the Screws, that election will be decided on the economy as it stands in 2015, not a political scandal from 2011.

Oddly enough, during the General Election campaign, I remember you admonishing others for making silly names out another party leader's name, I wonder what happened to that little bit of advice.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

That's is because Brown is not a conservative,

I seem to remember one of the admins or mods asking him not to drag party politics in to this thread and he seems to have ignored that as well.

And yet again, I have to point out at the only ones who are citing party politics, are those who are defending Cameron. From what I can remember, the only reference I have ever made on this thread, regarding the Tory Party, was raising a question about to what extent the elction campaign might have benefited from the hacking. But that would have been a few hundred posts ago. Whereas, there have been a multitude of posts criticising the Labour party.