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Old 06-05-2011, 17:52   #103
Chrysalis
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
You think that if you need to. No need to apologise. I'll survive.



Ah, the excuses begin. So, when the referendum results are announced, you plan to answer the likely 'no' vote by claiming that if it had offered a full PR system, such as the additional member system used in Scotland or full-on STV, then we would have had a 'yes'?

Much as I agree that people who are in love with PR should have voted 'no' in this referendum, I don't for a moment believe that most 'no' voters have rejected the specific system on offer. Rather, people simply see no imperative for change.

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Referendum results are starting to come in now - very convincingly on the 'NO' side so far.
Wrong I am saying no such thing.

I am simply saying you cannot say the people have rejected PR because a PR voting system was never offered.

Now I have put that to you in very simple terms, I really hope you dont manage to twist that.

As to the current results, I put down to 2 things. 1 - People for whatever reason dont like AV compared to FPTP, I dont like AV myself but if the polling card did arrive I would have voted yes as I see it as a way of saying FPTP is bad. 2 the campaign for NO simply been much better than the campaign for YES, one reason I hate things like leafleting as it allows smear campaigning which is what the NO campaign was all about, smearing the YES campaign calling it over complicated and expensive.

End of the day if people want a system where only a minority of the country decides every election then so be it but I wont take part in such a mockery of a voting system.
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