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Old 06-05-2011, 11:39   #91
Chrysalis
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
There is no "national pool" of votes, as you put it. In a general election we all elect a local representative to a national assembly. The weakness that exists in our system lies in the strength of political party machines which seek to ensure that once at Westminster, your local representative adheres to a Party line.

Proportional systems exacerbate this problem by weakening, if not entirely eliminating, the link between an individual MP and an individual constituency. AV seeks to avoid that problem but at the same time, because it is not electing one person to one post, but simultaneously many people to many posts, it is not remotely proportional either.
that link is a myth?

my MP was hand picked by labour, and guarantueed success in election, she has yet to even respond to any queries from me. what link? the only way she is not getting reelected next election is if she doesnt stand. I dont give a rats ass about towing party line and is what they should do really anyway. But MP's not in safe seats are likely to work harder for their people, ie. not ignore requests and in turn the leading party has to think about the entire populace rather than just the marginal seats.

STV has the same sort of links as FPTP by the way. But is a PR system rather than the silly one now that has guarantueed results.

I will remind you again, under FPTP the majority of the country that is more than 50% is undemocratic and has the same result every general election.

I never said AV was proportional as well. In fact its almost as poor as FPTP which makes the referendum a mockery anyway. Another example of an illusion of democracy, even if the tories lost the referendum the system in place would not be too different. So here it is either poor voting system A or poor voting system B, cannot vote for good voting system A.
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