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Chrysalis · 24-04-2011, 01:20

The reality is severe oversubscribed areas break trading standards legislation, regardless of what you think about that. The reality is VM can solve it via various methods quite easily, they are not stukck in a diffilcult position, the reality is they have made a concsious decision to leave people with horrible performance. VM are getting away with this due to lax regulation, with a decent regulator the unlimited farce would be gone long ago and noone would be uploading 24/7 as a result. AAISP do sell to a niche, but that niche is mainly for things like their uk localised technical enhanced support, line monitoring, large ip ranges, managed services, SLA's, prirority fault resolution. The fact they happen to also treat congestion seriously is more a bonus for their business customers although they probably wouldnt tolerate severe congestion that disrupts whatever they doing I suspect as long as their emails work etc. they mostly wont be aware of any congestion that may creep up occasionaly on aaisp's services.

lets forget about the financials of it for now we both disagree on this. Even tho you have made no comment in regards to VM selling something they cant supply and if they should stop unlimited.

My question is what do you think is happening in these so called not oversubscribed but over utilised areas? given that nntp and p2p are throttled down now plus a bunch of other unidentified protocols at any given time. Is someone who isnt using p2p or nntp and staying within STM limits doing something unusual?

24-04-2011, 01:20	#32
Chrysalis Inactive Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 12,047	Re: Virgin Media Q1 2011 Results... The reality is severe oversubscribed areas break trading standards legislation, regardless of what you think about that. The reality is VM can solve it via various methods quite easily, they are not stukck in a diffilcult position, the reality is they have made a concsious decision to leave people with horrible performance. VM are getting away with this due to lax regulation, with a decent regulator the unlimited farce would be gone long ago and noone would be uploading 24/7 as a result. AAISP do sell to a niche, but that niche is mainly for things like their uk localised technical enhanced support, line monitoring, large ip ranges, managed services, SLA's, prirority fault resolution. The fact they happen to also treat congestion seriously is more a bonus for their business customers although they probably wouldnt tolerate severe congestion that disrupts whatever they doing I suspect as long as their emails work etc. they mostly wont be aware of any congestion that may creep up occasionaly on aaisp's services. lets forget about the financials of it for now we both disagree on this. Even tho you have made no comment in regards to VM selling something they cant supply and if they should stop unlimited. My question is what do you think is happening in these so called not oversubscribed but over utilised areas? given that nntp and p2p are throttled down now plus a bunch of other unidentified protocols at any given time. Is someone who isnt using p2p or nntp and staying within STM limits doing something unusual?