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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
I'm trying to work out if you really are naive enough to believe the above. That is indeed how it' supposed to work, the reality is obviously not quite so clear cut.
That or we're about the sickest nation in the western world.
So either our NHS sucks or we've far too many people on long term disability or a combination of both.  |
Its a combination of all of them probably. Our NHS (in my view) seems fine for emergencies but when it comes to ongoing illnesses and particurly stuff thats hard to diagnose it fails. Out of everyone I know or people that people I know know, they have trouble with getting help of the nhs for non life threatening conditions. If they think you about to drop dead, then great ambulance is there in 2 minutes, straight to hospital, no waiting in hospital straight to bed and surrounded by staff no problem. However they consider anything non life threatening as a 'minor injury'. Even in this funding boom we have had the previous years hospitals or at least my hospital is sending people home who have had surgery or even making people who have had things like heart bypasses rest on a make shift bed made out of chairs in corridors.
We also have long working hours, there seems to be trend in the past decade that its fine for people to have to work 50-60-70-80 hours a week to get a livable wage. This is more common than you may think, I have worked for multiple companies where more than half of the workforce is doing overtime in physically demanding jobs. That sooner or later will catch up on people's health.
Now in terms of welfare I am not sure if we talking about just immigrants on welfare or welfare as a whole. My experience living in an area with high immigration is that most immigrants work, they are great employees as they will do physically demanding jobs for long hours on low pay. I certianly dont see many in the job centre when I have been there but have seen a lot in places I have worked. The biggest problem I see with immigration is they are a strain as a whole to public services and infrastructure of any given area due to the fact they tend to not spread out evenly across the country. Of course I am excluding asylum seekers who do get housed and are not even allowed to work so must be getting some kind of welfare and as such they also wouldnt be seen in a job centre.
Obviously I dont know exactly how many of my past work colleagues are actually immigrants, however I do talk to these people and many told me they have immigrated to the country for a better life, some can barely speak english and were working so its hard to believe they were born here as well.