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Old 07-04-2011, 19:53   #19
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Re: Do you want to retire ?

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
What 'other' evidence? You haven't even provided starters. Let's get that sorted first, eh?

You can't quote a fact and then simply assert that it proves whatever point you want to make. That's not how evidence works.

The facts - for there are many - are that the retirement age is going up, and the average life expectancy is going up, and there are increasing numbers of people who have expressed a desire not to be compelled to stop working at the current age. Women, in particular, have always lived statistically longer than men so it is a long-standing oddity that their retirement age has been lower.

This country faces a massive social care bill for the elderly because the system is being asked to pay out on a scale it was never designed for. As Hugh states, this is basically because it was built on the assumption that it was caring for a relatively modest number of people, as a proportion of the population, who in the case of men were on average claiming from the system for 8 years before dying.

Now, however, we have a proportionally much larger chunk of the population claiming on (male) average for 14 years before dying. Raising the retirement age to 67 or even to 70 doesn't come anywhere near your somewhat hysterical claim that "they" want you to die before you have a chance to claim your pension. In fact, a single male/female retirement age of 70 still gives those being born today an average 9 years of retirement, against the 8 years average when the State pension was set up.

So you see, the evidence says you're talking out of your hat.
I am being hysterical am I when the facts speak for themselves that our retirement age is going up whether we like it or not just to cover the shortfall in monies to pay for pensions, I have no need to provide any facts because that speaks for itself as our parents all were able to officially retire at 60 and 65 respectively.

Cost is the real factor here and if you are to blinkered to see that then so be it and this falls at no polical parties feet, as they have all realised that as a nation we are living longer and they know the money is not available to fund the future pension bill for everyone.
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