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Old 07-04-2011, 19:45   #16
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Re: Do you want to retire ?

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Originally Posted by Masque View Post
The changes in retirement law were you can now work into your dotage with no cut off point at 65 plus womens retirement ages going up from 60 as well what other evidence do you need to see that they want you to die without taking a pension.

Also this has no political point to prove as all parties want the same.
What 'other' evidence? You haven't even provided starters. Let's get that sorted first, eh?

You can't quote a fact and then simply assert that it proves whatever point you want to make. That's not how evidence works.

The facts - for there are many - are that the retirement age is going up, and the average life expectancy is going up, and there are increasing numbers of people who have expressed a desire not to be compelled to stop working at the current age. Women, in particular, have always lived statistically longer than men so it is a long-standing oddity that their retirement age has been lower.

This country faces a massive social care bill for the elderly because the system is being asked to pay out on a scale it was never designed for. As Hugh states, this is basically because it was built on the assumption that it was caring for a relatively modest number of people, as a proportion of the population, who in the case of men were on average claiming from the system for 8 years before dying.

Now, however, we have a proportionally much larger chunk of the population claiming on (male) average for 14 years before dying. Raising the retirement age to 67 or even to 70 doesn't come anywhere near your somewhat hysterical claim that "they" want you to die before you have a chance to claim your pension. In fact, a single male/female retirement age of 70 still gives those being born today an average 9 years of retirement, against the 8 years average when the State pension was set up.

So you see, the evidence says you're talking out of your hat.
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