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Old 07-04-2011, 11:28   #91
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Re: Do you want this government out?

I think you hit it on the head peanut. Voting 'Yes' in the hope that all would go back to how it was before, whatever the consequences, is easy while admitting that it's purely for self-interest isn't so easy to articulate without sounding selfish.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis View Post
correct I am a taxpayer, I dont hate taxpayers.

But to label it taxpayer's money after it has changed hands is wrong. It is a legal transaction over to the state, at that point it is state money. If you dont consider it to be state money then openly refuse to pay your taxes and see what happens.
Just as a reminder of what the government is they are our elected representatives. One of their functions is to decide how best to allocate our money. When the money goes to the government it is tax payers' money, when they hand it out again it remains money from other tax payers, delivered via the government, not government money. They allocate funding, they don't directly trade goods or services for the money they receive in taxation and do not hold it long term, they hold it until it either is spent or used to pay down debt.

By your logic when you put money into your bank account it becomes the bank's money. When you put some money into your savings it becomes the account operator's.

Your last sentence is ridiculous. The law is the law whatever my opinion of it so it's a non-issue. Regardless of whether it's state money or not the law demands payment and has appropriate penalties for refusing to comply. Sounds almost like extortion doesn't it?
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