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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
so thatcher started that rubbish phrase.
I dont agree with the phrase taxpayers money. Once tax is paid its no longer taxpayer's money, its government money. Just because thatcher said it, it doesnt mean its true.
eg. if I buy something of you does that mean the money I have given you is still my money? of course not. Its like saying tesco is broke because their money is customer's money.
I may have misunderstood what angua meant by self reliance of course.
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Err trade is something quite different from taxation.
It's not government money, it is always taxpayers' money, the government is spending it on our behalf.
I doubt Thatcher started that 'rubbish phrase'. Your disdain for taxpayers is quite curious, I presume you are one yourself after all?
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
Well please asnwer this question then, there must be a load of Tory lovers on this forum.
This country is always giving money to overseas aid, and then we give a further 600 MILLION to a rich country, that shouldn't need it.
Its a kick in the teeth for the voters, who are seeing cuts galore, in this country.
How much money in this this secret chest, where they seem to find money for that, BUT not for this country, remember its OUR MONEY.
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Err the overseas aid budget is quite easy to find, there's nothing secret about it at all.
Pakistan is not a rich country by any stretch, they aren't super, super poor but are a long way from being rich. I've already provided their GDP, it's not huge and way lower than ours.
It is in our interests, in a big way, to keep them onside. The specifics of the deals that were made I do not know, but rest assured that money didn't come without strings attached. They are important in keeping terrorism under control.
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Half of the investment would be on education, one of Pakistan's greatest weaknesses. More than 40% of children under 9 here don't go to school. Some of those who do find no one to teach them - a phenomenon known as 'ghost schools'.
The UK aims to supply 6 million sets of text books, train 90,000 teachers and get an extra 4 million children into schools over the next 4 years.
The new aid programme has ambitious targets well beyond the classroom - to save the lives of 110,000 children by expanding community health services, prevent 3,600 mothers dying in childbirth, and get another 2 million people to vote in the next general election.
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For all the complaints about schooling in the UK we don't have 40% of under 9s not going to school. The money makes a genuine difference and, by serving others, we can serve our own international and domestic interests to some extent. You can't entirely shut the world out, we need it, we want other countries to become wealthy so that we can sell things to them and benefit from their wealth and in turn increase our own.