Originally Posted by papa smurf

i guess some people have a different type or relationship with their children
i have never raised a hand to mine and they have Grown up just fine ,i am/was capable of shouting and removing play privileges /grounding/withholding pocket monies etc - they are 21 and 23 years old now and still seek my approval for most major decisions they make ,its just a mark of respect that they still have for their old dad .