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Originally Posted by Sparkle
Oh yes I certainly can, I'll take your comment as admission that you actually don't believe murderers often spend less than 5 yrs in jail. This is for the record. You also haven't acknowledged what Derek mentioned, in that if one were to attack the police then a stiffer sentence should be expected.
Both points will be put to bed later.
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I'm not holding out much hope to be honest, Sparkie.
You've demonstrated some fairly basic ignorance of the criminal justice system throughout this thread, you see, starting with your misunderstanding of how the life sentence tariff system works. Derek set you straight on it a few posts back back. I noticed you never acknowledged his post on this subject. I assume you thought nobody would notice that you got called out on this fairly basic error. Bad luck.
You have a very strange definition of "murder" - seemingly, any crime in which someone ends up dead, which makes great road safety headlines but is about as close to being legally accurate as any sentence containing the words "Tony Benn", "Margaret Thatcher" and "Secret Love Nest".
You also have a tendency to see arguments and claims where there are none. I've never made any comment on the sentencing guidelines for crimes against police officers. It is uncontentious and not worth arguing about. Criminals can, and often do, come off worse than otherwise in these situations, for the reasons Derek again explained earlier. Your continual wailing about what I supposedly believe on this subject is a pretty poor strawman designed to deflect attention from the shaky foundations of your own argument. Again, bad luck, I don't think anyone's falling for it.
My comments to you have been strictly limited to my request for you to provide the evidence on which you base the claim that someone convicted of the crime under discussion in this thread - the fatal shooting of someone in a public street - would be likely to spend only five years in jail *if* their victim had been Joe Public rather than PC Plum. No amount of huffing and puffing over the sentencing guidelines for crimes against the police is going to prove that point for you. You are going to have to find a media report of someone being convicted in Court of murdering someone in public, with a firearm, receiving the mandatory life sentence and then being handed a tariff of only five years.
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Its just fortunate for you that I'm actually at work now, and although I can type a message, Googling isn't possible at this time. Have patience 
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Your employer blocks Google but lets you make repeated posts to internet bulletin boards? Bizarre. I guess I will just have to think myself lucky that I'll be spared your l33t Google skillz for a few more hours.