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Old 19-02-2011, 19:13   #25
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Re: Cameron and Clegg worse than Thatcher.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu View Post
I have never heard so much crap in all my life, When l was out of work two years ago, I was sent for interviews at jobs that pay £16.000 grand per year and there were some 40 people for the interview for one job.
Coalition came into power in May of last year Arthur.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu View Post
There is no work out there for a decent hard working person that pays well, all this crap from the government that there is work, is talking out of there hat.
Not the fault of government and not entirely under their control. We're not a communist state where the economy is entirely under government control.

Incidentally I get paid reasonably well and work hard and would like to think I'm decent. If you want to blame anyone for low wages I'm afraid it's globalisation, Labour's immigration policy and the baby boomer generation - which you're a part of. The immigration was actually to try and offset the bulge in the baby boomers as they need people to pay their pensions, however it does mean increased supply of labour so lower salaries. Unfortunately in lower skilled jobs the pressure and competition is strong.

If you took no opportunity to increase your skills this is entirely your own doing, no-one is entitled to a well paid job, if you had no opportunity I am extremely sorry to hear that but I don't know why you think you should be paid more than others by default. You may work hard but so do many other people - up to you to show what you can do that means you should get more money.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu View Post
The unemployed are just a number to the job centre, there are people out there that have been made redundant, that are now regarded as too old for a job.
I would hope that isn't the case but no doubt some element of the unemployed being a number is true.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu View Post
Unemployed HAS GONE UP since the coalition stepped, WHY, they work for the sectors that have stripped there staff, due to budget cuts.
Something to do with a recession. Recessions mean job losses, this one has actually been relatively light on the job losses due to high public sector employment.

Employment rates go up and down Arthur, would have thought you'd have been alive long enough to know that, full employment is a socialist fantasy. Japan tried to keep employment high, their economy is a mess.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu View Post
I work for a company and have been told, in a few months l too can be made redundant. Why don't people get real, The whole damn country is in a downhill spiral, you don't know if you have a job, or even a public service.
Very few people can be guaranteed a job. You are completely exaggerating about public services. Go complain to your council about those, they're the ones cutting front line services while keeping their highly paid co-ordinator and consultant positions going.

Labour tried to give everyone a job in public service.

That worked.

Communist North Korea and China are to the east and a touch to the south. Seems they would suit your expectations of a job for life and cradle to grave entitlement better.

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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
b) I think we know if we have a job or not, don't you?
Thanks for that Hugh. I did wonder why I spent 11 hours today without a break stuck on my computer taking high level support escalations and working through faults.

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Originally Posted by martyh View Post
I would just like to add that in my view there is the worst of the housing crash still to come as people mainly young first time buyers who maxed out their income and credit on a house that is way past their income level start having houses repossessed because they cannot sell at the price they need to clear debt/mortgage and downsize to a more affordable home
You could be right but they didn't have much choice.

The real pain is that this housing will likely be sucked up by BtL investors.

Facts for the day - a higher % of people between 50 and 65 own a second home than people under 35 who own at all.
Owner-occupation is dropping due to inability of people who actually want a home to live in to buy one.

I had a nice leaflet through the door for a Borough Council pleasing low-rise apartment building as they have banned anything over 3 floors - 2 beds start at only £349,995. Nice easy starter home that.
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