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Originally Posted by The_Gunslinger
that i think is the point, you are rightly or wrongly assuming that the higher teir users are always downloading/using that bandwidth, when in reality many are not, and are paying for the convenience of having the speed when they want it..... only to be capped, shapped and generally crippled,
as for the discounts, i would put money on that there are likely more people on 10mb connections that have a huge discount based on tv and phone joint packages (i am actually fed up with the constant phone calls regarding tv packages, so much so that i phoned the uk complaints team and told them if they didn't stop bugging me, i'd take both phones and the multiple packages on those and the BB Internet elsewhere, seems to have done the trick) ... i would hazard there are more people on the higher tiers that only have BB with them.
BT are about to hit the same problem... they are force feeding us infinity adverts right now, touting how great the 3 times speed increase is (very cleverly not actually giving you any idea of the speed you will get, just estimated 3x increase on current...... well 3x crap is still crap lol) ..... and pushing the wonderful HD content you can watch through your new connection....... I'LL GIVE IT 6 MONTHS BEFORE THEY HIT A PROBLEM, if they don't start shaping and capping from the word go !
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They already are hitting problems
people getting sub 20mbit during peak on FTTC is not unusual. Also not too surprising given its using BT wholesale (which is very high cost for bandwidth) , they are also traffic shaping on infinity although I dont know the exact specifics other than the FUP is higher so throttling for heavy use kicks in later but p2p etc. will be throttled at peak like their adsl.
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
Indeed, however you are spreading that cost between 100 or 400 sources of income - you've contradicted yourself a bit between the two paragraphs there.
Not always, I would hope that's very obvious, but mostly. There will be the odd leecher who pays as little as possible and downloads half the Internet but for the most part impatience gets the better of people or STM or a similar policy annoys them pushing them to higher speeds.
Regardless it's peak usage that matters - ask VM for their figures across their tiers if you still have questions they should answer them. There will, of course, be exceptions.
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I am never good at wording things
but I meant a resource cost, ie the true demand per customer on unrestricted resources, is why I didnt say actual cost as I am aware VM can and do control costs by capping capacity. Ultimately 10mbit on VM is poorer value for money especially when considering its also contended higher on legacy (based on figures you provided before in an old thread).