[Osem]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Osem you will not hear me or i believe any genuine claimant ever say the system is perfect or that it doesn't need to be reformed but the blanket way they are doing it is completely ridiculous it really is. There is an easy effective way to cut down the number of assessments needed and saving a very large amount of cash in the process by involving those health professionals that already deal with and are aware of the problems of many genuine claimants. Most fraudsters never see a consultant or if they do try and blag it do not succeed for very long before being found out and kicked off said consultants list so there is the start point.

Atos is a gaping chasm into which millions if not tens of millions of taxpayers money has gone and will continue to go and they are simply incompetent in every way that matters so to save 4-5k a year in benefit on a cheat your willing to pay them at least that amount and sometimes much more to kick someone off it really doesn't make any financial sense at all. This is pandering of the worst kind by this government to a section of our society that will never be happy while there is a single person claiming benefit be it me or your son.

I could probably stomach all of this a little easier if they had announced plans to go after the tax evader's who cost this country as much a year as the entire welfare budget but again we hear nothing on that and the daily hate is also completely silent on that issue. I have said many times in the past i am grateful to every single person who is working and in doing so enables me to be taken care of on the state but there comes a point where i am also sick and tired of being guilty by association with a tiny minority who abuse the system.

I hate and despise them more then taxpayers do because of people like them i have two hurdles to overcome when i look for work i have to overcome my disability and then if i can do that i have to convince an employer that i am not going to get the job have it for a bit and hop back on the sick because i am one of the **** that had to get a job or lose everything. Media like the daily mail do what they do on purpose they exaggerate the problem and in doing so make it virtually impossible for any claimant to get a job because of the stigma they stick on us.

There are things that both need to be done and can be done easily to reform the benefits system but the course this government has chosen is not one of them and i seriously have my doubts about how successful this will be given how incompetent atos is the fraudsters will probably be quite successful in conning them as most of the people doing the assessments will not be fully medically trained. Will be even more limited in their knowledge of many illness's and this will end up costing the country a lot more then benefit fraud truly does and achieve no real change in the numbers of fraudsters but will put many genuine through months of hell.

Some of those people will not live through it because they have simply had enough and just don't want to carry on living like this i know there are times where i feel like that.

You really do have our sincere sympathies. We feel likewise sometimes when coping with our lad almost becomes too much. We all just have to hope and pray that the powers that be ensure that whatever assessments are going to be undertaken are done so with understanding and humanity. The fact that so much has been done so poorly in the past ought to help ensure a fairer system now. We're trying to be positive about all of this as that's the only way we can cope and I won't be assuming the worst about any of this just yet. Of course I appreciate the experience you and others like you have been through may have given you a very different outlook from ours however.